Guest topshot_2k Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Has anyone tried the new range of Eley Bismuth, Evo II i think they are called? Looking to buy 50 for goose shooting over the next few weeks but want to hear some feedback before spending £50 on them over tungsten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brno223 Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Has anyone tried the new range of Eley Bismuth, Evo II i think they are called? Looking to buy 50 for goose shooting over the next few weeks but want to hear some feedback before spending £50 on them over tungsten I haven't heard of this new range. The only mention I've found is here, about half way down the page - http://www.sportinggun.co.uk/guns/398783/G...ges_review.html No mention at all on the Eley Hawk website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Are you shooting over the foreshore or inland over deeks ? Scotland or England ?? Canadas or grey geese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Are you shooting over the foreshore or inland over deeks ? Scotland or England ?? Canadas or grey geese Inland mainly, Both canadas and greys, up until now i have been using steel but remington steel is hard to get and expensive so thinking about trying some bismuth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 I haven't heard of this new range. The only mention I've found is here, about half way down the page - http://www.sportinggun.co.uk/guns/398783/G...ges_review.html No mention at all on the Eley Hawk website. Yes thats them, just cartridges stock them but the eley website is under construction so im struggling to find out any info on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brno223 Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Yes thats them, just cartridges stock them but the eley website is under construction so im struggling to find out any info on them I've used Eley bismuth and it works fine. I just go up one shot size from lead so where I used 6 shot I use 5s in bismuth. Can't see that the new range is much different from the old. Fancy looking case though. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 The old bismuth was ok for duck , but the big sizes next to usless on geese. One winter a few years ago Bismuth BBs were the only non toxic shells I could get for goose flighting. Yes they killed a few , but sent too many birds off wounded. When i looked closely at the geese I found the pellets shattered when hitting a bone. And many geese only come down because they have a broken wing , something these bismuth shells were not capable of doing. Tungstun or hevi shot are much better. Steel is ok if the birds are very close or you use the 3.5 inch shells in BB or bigger shot sizes with a specialy adapted choke such as an Undertaker HS. Lets hope Eley have got their act togeather with these new shells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayslayer Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 The old bismuth had a bad habit of shattering on impact, the problem was found to be impuratise in the bismuth which has all been scrapped and a much more refined bismuth is now in use (evo 2) The only thing to do is try it i think you will find it a joy to use. The other advice would be to drop a shot size if you use 3 shot lead use 2 shot bismuth. The new vip 12 gauge bismuth is also in both plastic,photowad and fibre wad for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 i thought it was evo III bismuth available now. i think it is 5% tin stuff. i`ve seen bismuth 5s used to good effect on geese and ducks. i still think its a little limp for geese. i`m going the way of the steel. its cheaper than heavishot, and bismuth. but the performance is limited. however i can load steel for 25p a shot and have it shifting 1600fps. and have a low pressure. -when my loader gets here ! i actually think steel is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister1 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 i purcahsed some eley forest bismuth ( bleeding expensive £20 a box ) for the few duck i see in the season. i was waiting in a ditch when a pigeon went past sholudered my gun and pulled the trigger and missed shortly afterwards i realised just how much that cartridge cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Inland mainly, Both canadas and greys, up until now i have been using steel but remington steel is hard to get and expensive so thinking about trying some bismuth I am amazed that you say Remington steel is expensive yet you are considering using Bismuth which is at least 50% more expensive. Remington Hi Speed steel is IMO the best steel loads you can buy and I haven't found an in range duck or goose that hasn't been killed in the air yet with it, providing I do it correctly my end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 I am amazed that you say Remington steel is expensive yet you are considering using Bismuth which is at least 50% more expensive. Remington Hi Speed steel is IMO the best steel loads you can buy and I haven't found an in range duck or goose that hasn't been killed in the air yet with it, providing I do it correctly my end. Nowhere locally sells it so i have to use mail order and that makes it very expensive for steel. They also use plastic wads, something im trying my hardest not to have to use. I agree that remignton steel is the best steel load but its still not as good as denser non toxic like bismuth, hevi shot etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Steel may not be as good as Hevi shot but it is far cheaper. Remington Hi Speed Steel is far far superior to bismuth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popgun Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I got some bismuth bb to load the puntgun for a test shot or 2 it started as BBs and hit the target as dust shot no good at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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