red setter

[fergie]

whats your thoughts on the breed the wife doesn't want a ess and i don't want a lab but we both like the red setter? im planning on it working

[webber]

I've never owned one, but know someone who has had two. One after the other. My impression was / is that I wouldn't want one even as a gift. It may be the breed, possibly the owner; the words beautiful and brainless spring to mind; with regards to the dog.

 

webber

[pegleg31]

red setter's bring back fond memorie's of my child hood

 

my gran had one called pepper that i used to walk for miles.i'd say they were a little more hyper than a ESS

 

 

get a lab they're born half trained

[gyp]

We've got a red setter and a Lab....Have a Lab, red setter is good fun to have around but no brains. I think they have bred all the working strains out of them and are just bred for show dogs now.

[Delbert]

I suppose (as we have both an ESS and a Lab sat watching the rain) it depends on what type of shooting

you do. I wouldn't think a setter would be much of a hide dog nor rough shooting as I understand it. You

are looking at a pointing dog and unless you (beat) lease a moor or open heath it not what I would

call an ideal solution for the average shooter,

if it was me I'd compromise get a springer and a pair of earplugs. :look: :devil:

The easy answer is take herself and call in on a pal with springer pups - they are unbelievably cute

and irresistible to women ( which can be a problem walking them in places frequented by

young ladies in summer who like to stop and pet the dog and chat <cough>)

[Blackbart]

red setter's bring back fond memorie's of my child hood

 

my gran had one called pepper that i used to walk for miles.i'd say they were a little more hyper than a ESS

 

 

get a lab they're born half trained

 

 

And they die still half trained.

 

I dont think a red setter is anywhere near a springer in the hyper stakes and i dont think they are close in the working stakes either.If you want it as a pet get one but if you plan on having a shooting dog forget it.Red setters should be blonde really

[pegleg31]

And they die still half trained.

 

I dont think a red setter is anywhere near a springer in the hyper stakes and i dont think they are close in the working stakes either.If you want it as a pet get one but if you plan on having a shooting dog forget it.Red setters should be blonde really :look:

 

 

 

my labs coming on great

i have a cocker too.now thats a different story,he's only 6 month's and clever as hell.to flipping clever it only takes a few times of training for him to get something so i dont think it'll be long before he starts taking the ****

 

 

go for a lab or a cocker,springers are great i had one but hard work

[ForeignGadger]

Thick as two short planks.

Don't go near them unless you want them as an animated doormat, or a plaything for the kids.

If you get one, make sure it has a collar and ID: you will get phone calls from miles around. Every one complimentary....

 

FG

[alfa taf]

I beg to differ.!!!

 

The reason is that Setters _ Red or English_ are used extensively, as well as Pointers, in rough shooting in Greece especially on wood

cock,partrige quail etc. Of course Shooting is done in a different way as Driven Shoot is not allowed and the terrain when after especially

wood cock is very close and pardrige on high terrain so one has to rely on a dog with a strong nose. I agree they are highly strung

especially the Red Setter and would not be as good as say a Lab would be when in a hide .

 

Or maybe I am biased as I had two Red Setters in my time both really excellent .

[Dirty Harry]

I have experience of a Gordon Setter. Very nice dog and very steady. If you get a setter I would say dont expect it to do everything as it's only bread to set.

 

Harry

[pyr8]

daft as a brush,lovable bag of energy.mate used to bring his to work(golf course) let it out of his car on arrival at work and that was the last you saw of the dog for half an hour,just a red flash in the distance.you could here it when it came back to the sheds.it used to pile into the shed door,funny dog never did master the art of stopping it just ran into something to stop.

[WGD]

Irish Setters (red) are similar to cockers in that there is a HUGE difference between show lines and working lines.

 

An Irish Setter won this years Pointer & Setter Championship Stake, I have seen a couple of working bred dogs running on grouse moor and they were lovely to watch. But IMO unless you have a need in the type of shooting you do for a pointing breed you'd be better sticking to a retriever or a spaniel (doesn't need to be a lab or a springer).