rascal_2005 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 hi guys, have started the stock. i have nitromorsed it and got some wirewool over it but im not happy, its still needs redoing i think. as you can see from the pic. its got a dark patch at the end of the stock. im finding it really hard. john boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascal_2005 Posted February 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 just looked at the above pic and its a bit ****, looks darker than it realy is lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Get some more stripper on it and let it work away, my baikal stock went much lighter than that but I had to keep working the nitro-mors into it with an old toothbrush All the very best, SSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascal_2005 Posted February 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 SSS how did you actually do it? and how long did it take mate?? john boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 (edited) It took me about 3 days to do it altogether. I rubbed a lot of paint and varnish remover (from Wickes) into the wood with an old toothbrush until there was no staining left on the wood. Then I got some VERY fine wet and dry paper and rubbed it down wet (not the chequering) to fill any cracks to get any rough spots out. Next was the wire wool treatment and again rubbed it until it was really smooth. I will try and find a picture and put it up, but im not promising I will find it Next I washed it under some cold water and let it dry out over night. I didnt want it as dark as it was so I didnt put any stain on it, just the oil and it looked really good when I had finished. Just remember not to put the oil on too thick or it will run, and let all of the layers dry before the next one. Good luck mate, give me a PM if you are struggling. All the very best, Sam Edited February 17, 2010 by SSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 (edited) Hi Rascal Looks like a good start, you should be able to tell if the old finish / varnish has completely been removed by looking / feeling. It wont hurt to have another go with some Nitromors. Do it in stages, dont wet the whole stock. Once you have wet an area with NM, let it stand for a min, if there is any old varnish left you will usually see it blister etc. Use a stiff tooth brush or wire wool to remove the finish. Once finished wash the stock down with soapy water to completely remove the NM. Once you are happy that the old finish has gone, the wood itself may not feel that smooth to touch. You could get some good quality sandpaper, 400 grade or finer will be ok (600 is finer than 400 etc) to get a nice finish on the wood, then finish again with 0000 wire wool if your that particular. If your planning on using oil this stage is key. You must get a really good finish, to the eye and touch, otherwise it will still be there after the oil has been applied. Once you have cleaned all the dust / debris off the stock it should be ready to finish. Here is a link to the stock on my gun that I done http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...david+dickinson ATB Marcus Edited February 17, 2010 by Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhardup Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 hi guys, have started the stock. i have nitromorsed it and got some wirewool over it but im not happy, its still needs redoing i think. as you can see from the pic. its got a dark patch at the end of the stock. im finding it really hard. john boy Ty typing in rifle refinishing tips into your google search bar, just read a very good artical on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampwick Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 hi guys, have started the stock. i have nitromorsed it and got some wirewool over it but im not happy, its still needs redoing i think. as you can see from the pic. its got a dark patch at the end of the stock. im finding it really hard. john boy Ive just starrted working on my old AYA tonight following a tip or two from Burntout (Tom) Spent a couple of hours with the varnish remover (two coats) and wire wool. It looks better already without any sanding down. Good to see before and after pics from Burntout and I will post mine once completed. Look forward to seeing your completed project. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 It took me about 3 days to do it altogether. I rubbed a lot of paint and varnish remover (from Wickes) into the wood with an old toothbrush until there was no staining left on the wood. Then I got some VERY fine wet and dry paper and rubbed it down wet (not the chequering) to fill any cracks to get any rough spots out. Next was the wire wool treatment and again rubbed it until it was really smooth. I will try and find a picture and put it up, but im not promising I will find it Next I washed it under some cold water and let it dry out over night. I didnt want it as dark as it was so I didnt put any stain on it, just the oil and it looked really good when I had finished. Just remember not to put the oil on too thick or it will run, and let all of the layers dry before the next one. Good luck mate, give me a PM if you are struggling. All the very best, Sam you just raised the grain again by wetting it and leaving it to dry, was it rough when you oiled it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 No, sorry should have added, I gave it another rub down with 0000 wire wool again after I washed it to make it smoooth. My bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinxy72 Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 i found scotchbrite pads work alot better than wire wool ...... scotchbrite the mors off then go over with the wire wool last just incase of any little rough parts etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 (edited) This will probably sound quite alarming to many of you but caustic oven cleaner is very effective stripper, much better then nitromors. I have done old military rifles and heavily over oiled stocks with this stuf and its brilliant. Spray it on, leave for a few hours and hose it off, simples Ian. Edited March 31, 2010 by Vermincinerator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 (edited) Always lightly buff with 0000 wire wool between coats of oil.......I used Birhwood stock sheen and conditioner to finish too....Leaves a lovely satin finish and makes it water and finger mark repellent... Before.. Edited April 1, 2010 by smig4373 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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