Tank Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Hi all, I'm pretty new to air gunning so this may seem a little basic. I've heard different opinions about lubricating pellets for PCP rifles. To me as a beginner it makes sense to oil them, but does anybody have any different opinions? Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Hi all, I'm pretty new to air gunning so this may seem a little basic. I've heard different opinions about lubricating pellets for PCP rifles. To me as a beginner it makes sense to oil them, but does anybody have any different opinions? Many thanks There are usually quite a few articles in airgun magazines about this. In my opinion, you get what you pay for; so if you buy £3 pellets, you're going to get a bad pack of pellets regardless of what you do to them. So make sure you buy pellets which are about £8 and upwards. However one of the methods I've seen and used is to wash the pellets in washing up liquid, dry them on a paper towel and then drop them in a bowl of gun oil. Swish them around and them remove and pop on a paper towel. This will get rid of all the tiny bits of lead and clean them up nicely. Don't put them back in the tin sopping with oil, just leave them with a bit of a glossy finish. Oh and if you're shooting vermin, don't buy pointed pellets. Use flathead or domed pellets I hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted March 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Thanks very much for the advice. If anybody wants me, I'll be in the kitchen, doing tiny washing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Being a lazy ****** I've never bothered, but most people have a view on this. Could well ease the friction slightly along the barrel and could well make for a tighter fit as well, by capturing more propellant air, so who knows......you have 12ft lb max at the muzzle anyway so if you are 11.5+ at the moment hardly seems worth the bother. As is so often the case in shooting, if it works for you then it's the way to go!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I don't.They have already got a coating of lube in the tin they come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 too much effort involved! i use air arms field in .22 and they are very accurate-accurate enough without lube! a lot of target shooters who want to maximize there chances use lube,i just dont see the point myself. also when we was younger one of my mates put some through his bsa lightning and it shot crazy for ages-dunno what he done but it proper mucked it up!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 get ya lube out lad...lol surely all them lead particles cant be good, clogging up the barrel after 1000's pellets..one guy said the lead actually lines the barrel and helps with the rifling, i think he was chating ****, he was just too lazy to clean his pellets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seddey Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I was reading a post somewhere (or in a mag) about someone who is into his target work. He not only washes, dries, lubes and sizes the pellets, he also weighs them to make sure that they are all the same wieght within the tolerance. Any that are top or bottom limit are put for plinking! Way too much time on his hands, or is it just me!!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I was reading a post somewhere (or in a mag) about someone who is into his target work. He not only washes, dries, lubes and sizes the pellets, he also weighs them to make sure that they are all the same wieght within the tolerance. Any that are top or bottom limit are put for plinking! Way too much time on his hands, or is it just me!!?? hahaha he obviously hasn't got a television/ a wife! what is the point honestly. When hunting i check my pellets for dents before loading them into my mag and thats it job done as far as im concerned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seddey Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 My too! If the skirt is deformed ............ on the floor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Downie Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 If the skirt is deformed ............ on the floor! Apparently.... a bent skirt doesn't have any bearing on accuracy, because the pressure of air blasts the skirt back into shape and seals it against the inside of the barrel. It's dents/scratches on the dome that make the big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Apparently.... a bent skirt doesn't have any bearing on accuracy, because the pressure of air blasts the skirt back into shape and seals it against the inside of the barrel. It's dents/scratches on the dome that make the big difference. no way where did you read that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Downie Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 no way where did you read that? Word of mouth from one of the very experienced blokes at our HFT club. He described an experiment they'd done where they deliberately bent the skirt of a pellet, and hit the kill-zone of their target bang-on. Then they ran their thumbnail across the front of another pellet, and completely missed the plate. Seems plausible to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Word of mouth from one of the very experienced blokes at our HFT club. He described an experiment they'd done where they deliberately bent the skirt of a pellet, and hit the kill-zone of their target bang-on. Then they ran their thumbnail across the front of another pellet, and completely missed the plate. Seems plausible to me... im gonna have to try that out for myself! a bent skirt doesn't effect accuracy? You wouldn't of thought that would ya! ill post my results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 na i cant see it! if you had a big dent in the skirt of a pellet or it was crushed and you loaded it without realizing theres no way it wouldnt effect accuracy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Downie Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 na i cant see it! if you had a big dent in the skirt of a pellet or it was crushed and you loaded it without realizing theres no way it wouldnt effect accuracy! Well, I guess if it was squashed flat or had a 'kink' in the skirt, it'd be completely hopeless. I think the point he was making is that most of the pellets you see people chucking away (with slightly mis-shapen skirts) would be perfectly fine, AND the same folk never look at the front of the pellet, which is where even the slightest dent can change the POI drastically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Well, I guess if it was squashed flat or had a 'kink' in the skirt, it'd be completely hopeless. I think the point he was making is that most of the pellets you see people chucking away (with slightly mis-shapen skirts) would be perfectly fine, AND the same folk never look at the front of the pellet, which is where even the slightest dent can change the POI drastically. [/qu Yes i agree wonder how you would damage the front of a pellet tho,must be a lot harder than crushing the skirt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) Hmmm.... A bent skirt would mean that there'd be a slight loss of air as it bent back to fill the gap... I can't imagine this fact being true Edited March 24, 2010 by harfordwmj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Downie Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Hmmm.... A bent skirt would mean that there'd be a slight loss of air as it bent back to fill the gap... I can't imagine this fact being true I ain't sayin' man, I'm only sayin'... I haven't tried to reproduce the experiment, so I'm only passing on 2nd-hand opinion. But me, now that I've seen the shiny, sexy uniformity of Penetrators, I'm not bovvad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I ain't sayin' man, I'm only sayin'... I haven't tried to reproduce the experiment, so I'm only passing on 2nd-hand opinion. But me, now that I've seen the shiny, sexy uniformity of Penetrators, I'm not bovvad! one of my mates uses them logun penetrators in his fac verminator and he sais they are unreal! dunno what theyre like through sub 12ftlb airgun tho-what you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seddey Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Surely a bent or dented skirt will cause it to fly wrong! It aerodynamics have to be off! I will not through the next bent ones away and give them a go. Mind you, I am about to finish a tin of AA (1st one through this new gun) and am going to try H&N so anything is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Lube is for pussys . all the best yis yp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) Lube is for pussys . DOH second time this week i've posted twice , but this was worth repeating lol all the best yis yp Edited March 24, 2010 by Yorkshire Pudding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Surely a bent or dented skirt will cause it to fly wrong! It aerodynamics have to be off! I will not through the next bent ones away and give them a go. Mind you, I am about to finish a tin of AA (1st one through this new gun) and am going to try H&N so anything is possible. The skirt is designed (I think it was a Frenchman who designed it) so that the thin metal expands to fill the barrel, creating a tighter seal. So I can see some truth in this, but not to the extent of a pellet which has more than a 1mm dent on the skirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Downie Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 one of my mates uses them logun penetrators in his fac verminator and he sais they are unreal! dunno what theyre like through sub 12ftlb airgun tho-what you got? .177 AirWolf MCT, sub-12ft/lb. Had a .22 Air Ranger before that, and thought it was a great tool for rabbits despite its loopyness, but I took the Wolf out hunting for the first time just last weekend with Penetrators, and it was even more impressive and confidence-inspiring! Shot four pellets, and all four rabbits (30-35yds) dropped like stones - no twitching at all. You should definitely try some! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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