TJ91 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 i have seen a few bikes recently with no mirrors on... is this legal??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksheep Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Yes perfectly legal . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyr8 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 use your mirrors during your bike test instead of looking over your shoulder and you fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abiteachuck Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 (edited) Use your mirrors all the time and you will be dead, the over the shoulder look is the life saver never move out without it motorbike licence 46yrs :blink: 1st bike ariel colt last road bike honda fireblade inbetween hundreds current bike 1959 tiger cub trials Edited March 31, 2010 by abiteachuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollysp2 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Use your mirrors all the time and you will be dead, the over the shoulder look is the life saver never move out without it motorbike licence 46yrs :blink: As above but only had licence 6yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted April 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 i have had my bike license 2 years now (finally off the restriction!!) i agree with the look over the shoulder, it is a life saver.. i just thought that mirrors would be a legal requirement. thanks for the replys anyway guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Ok, so I don't ride a bike, and have only had my car licence for a day, but even still, in the time I was learning, the amount of times that looking over my shoulder has prevented an accident, it's unreal! I guess that on a bike it's a lot more important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abiteachuck Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 good thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Even when driving my car I do a life saver - and it literally has at least prevented a few accidents over the years - all from my instincts as a biker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkPassenger Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 (edited) Never took the "life saver" seriously until one day on the A1M, checked mirrors started moving into fast lane, took a last minute life saver and found a car there!!!! From that day I realised they really are called "life savers" for a reason. Edited April 3, 2010 by TheDarkPassenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunkyed Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 I agree with the look over the shoulder, on my CBT the instructers called it a life saver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 I agree the lifesaver is good but in 15 years of riding high performance bikes I have never been shocked to find a car in my blind spot when doing a lifesaver. Why I am normally going faster than most things and I also ride looking in my mirrors nearly as much as looking forward for that vanishing point or child waiting to step out . If a car manages to creep into your blind spot on a motorway etc I think you need take more glances in your mirrors if you cant do both your riding to fast for your skill level and I would back off till your grasp this skill. Kind regards OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 (edited) I am an advanced qualified motorcyclist. Whilst shoulder checks or life savers certainly have their place (slow speed manoeuvres, turning right etc) you should always think why you are doing them. Sometimes by positioning yourself better you can negate the need for a life saver and enhance your safety in a oner. A good example is waiting to turn right where there is an island in the road. By positioning yourself close to it, perhaps with your right foot on it, you negate any possibility of someone coming up the inside of you when you turn right - so no need for a life save as you turn. Also as OTH says, the faster you go, the more you should rely on you mirrors, and full blown over the shoulder lifesavers are dangerous at motorway speeds. A lot can happen in front of you in the 2 seconds or so you are looking behind you. Police instructors reckon you should glance in your mirrors at least every 7-10 seconds, as part of a visual scan of an hazards in the near and far distance and your peripheral vision. You should also check you mirrors before you brake, accelerate, change road position (even to avoid a pothole in your lane) or approach a hazard. Edited April 4, 2010 by Blunderbuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookbones Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 the life savers were debunked on the cbt for some strange reason <bar the 1 over the shoulder>.. they were ingrained in me so i cant not do them.. back to the thread.... you dont need mirrors for the mot iv built bikes without that went through no prob,of course it is lunacy to ride without at least 1 <i had a clip to the back by an extended caravan mirror on a discovery~even with a mirror id still have been hit but least id have been ready> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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