wildfowler.250 Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 also you have to prove the need for FAC, rather than just to shoot things I bet most people on here got a FAC because they need to shoot things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 To many on here underestimate the power of the humble .22 rf and treat it as a toy . I can assure you that the .22 rimfire will kill a fox clean at 100 yards with a well placed bullet in the neck or the head . At these ranges the .22 rimfire is not the ideal calibre for foxing and I am not advocating shooting foxes at this range but I am saying that a well placed bullet will kill one at 100 yards . Believe me I know . Any of the cetre fire .22 will do the job a lot better . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 To many on here underestimate the power of the humble .22 rf and treat it as a toy . I can assure you that the .22 rimfire will kill a fox clean at 100 yards with a well placed bullet in the neck or the head . At these ranges the .22 rimfire is not the ideal calibre for foxing and I am not advocating shooting foxes at this range but I am saying that a well placed bullet will kill one at 100 yards . Believe me I know . Any of the cetre fire .22 will do the job a lot better .Harnser . Agreed, all foxes I've shot in the head with a 22 at 100 yards or so have fallen over extremely dead without so much as a twitch. So it definitely works, but it's not the tool of choice for Charlie, most of the time. It does have its moments though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Sorry lads but I really do think you are leading this lad into a dangerous scenario. OK YOU may be able to drop a fox with a well placed head-shot, but this lad is a complete novice and if he goes out thinking that a .22rf is the tool for the job, then I think he is going to get himself into a great deal of bother. There is nothing worse than seeing a fox that has been half hit in the side of the head with a small slow moving bullet, who then runs off to either die a slow lingering death, or to be picked up by the RSPCA, who then have even more ammunition to use against shooters. If you want a small calibre rifle to take out foxes and long range rabbits, get a .22 Hornet, but for cryin’ out loud don’t think a .22rf is the tool for the job because it ain’t. :blink: G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Graham, did you miss the bit where we both said it's not an ideal tool for the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Got my fac last month,got two rifles on it a .22lr for rabbits and .223 for fox and muntjac,feo would not be happy with .22lr for fox,so if you do apply for fac and want to legally shoot foxes then put down .223 or bigger and a .22lr / .17hmr for the rabbits. Little tip for the future,never ask a question on here until you have looked through other posts etc and researched other places for answer such as basc etc etc,then ask only the bits you are not sure about,you will still get some answers that dont help much,but more often than not someone on here will help,just unfortunate that you asked such a dangerous question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Graham, did you miss the bit where we both said it's not an ideal tool for the job? No I didn’t, but I did think it needed to be re-enforced that a .22rf is more of a close range opportunist fox round than a dedicated one. I hate these kinds of debates, because it never really solves things or really answers the question, because some people swear by a .22rf whilst others regard then as totally unacceptable for fox. Personally I would never use a 17hmr for fox either ……………but that’s another story. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 The question was what is the maximum distance you can down a fox with a .22 rim fire . If we are talking about power of the .22 rimfire then I would say proberbly 200 yards . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 No I didn’t, but I did think it needed to be re-enforced that a .22rf is more of a close range opportunist fox round than a dedicated one.I hate these kinds of debates, because it never really solves things or really answers the question, because some people swear by a .22rf whilst others regard then as totally unacceptable for fox. Personally I would never use a 17hmr for fox either ……………but that’s another story. G.M. Calling it a fox round is getting into dangerous territory! :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Nothing further to add to this thread. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 There's one way to start a thread 'gun down' and another to ask the same question in a sensible manner. You'd have got a fraction of a response if you'd just put the question a bit less 'sniper' and more 'marksman' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heladoxa Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 The question was what is the maximum distance you can down a fox with a .22 rim fire . If we are talking about power of the .22 rimfire then I would say proberbly 200 yards . Harnser . Sorry Harnser, quote: 'the power of a .22rimfire is probably 200 yards' does not make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Sorry Harnser, quote: 'the power of a .22rimfire is probably 200 yards' does not make sense. Why not? "brrr, it's cold today. It's about minus two bags of sugar." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heladoxa Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Why not? "brrr, it's cold today. It's about minus two bags of sugar." Because it's like saying the power of a Fiord Mondeo is 1/2 mile. It's not cold here, quite warm in fact. About a tin of spam! LOL Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Because it's like saying the power of a Fiord Mondeo is 1/2 mile. It's not cold here, quite warm in fact. About a tin of spam! LOL Bill How can it possibly be a tin of spam when its windy.... shaun Personally i would ask your feo....tell him the reasons why you want i firearms ticket and ask him what he reccomends.... shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Because it's like saying the power of a Fiord Mondeo is 1/2 mile. It's not cold here, quite warm in fact. About a tin of spam! LOL Bill Tin of spam? I'm in Phenom Penh, it's almost midnight and it's four tins of tuna and I'm sweating like a yardstick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 I think Harnser is saying that at 200 Yards, a .22LR bullet will still carry the energy to make a kill providing the shot is placed correctly, but that getting a 22LR to shoot that accurately is another story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 I think Harnser is saying that at 200 Yards, a .22LR bullet will still carry the energy to make a kill providing the shot is placed correctly, but that getting a 22LR to shoot that accurately is another story... I make a Winnie sub 68ft/lbs at 200y and 54ft/lbs at 300y I know an airgun can kill a fox, so I know it's certainly still got the power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 (edited) I think the .22LR is a good caliber, and as such I will answer this normally unlike most people, as I know that it is used all the time to kill fox in the real world even when it really could be replaced with a better centerfire. I would say 75yds in the brain is your limit, although a farmer friend of mine shoots them from his bedroom window :blink: , if you were sure you could drop the bullet on the brain then you perhaps could push 100yds, with high velocitys to try and keep the trajectory reasonable. I have shot them in the chest, but I only suggest this if a brians shot is out, or at close range, 40yds or below really Steve Edited July 17, 2010 by stevethevanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 I think Harnser is saying that at 200 Yards, a .22LR bullet will still carry the energy to make a kill providing the shot is placed correctly, but that getting a 22LR to shoot that accurately is another story... Thank you James , yes I know its difficult at times ,Perhaps I should use more concise English for some members . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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