kent Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I do not have a problem, As I said in my PM, I do not consider 7.5s in lead man enough for shooting anything living. I certainly cannot condone the use of 7.5s in steel for shooting ducks. I firmly believe (and all the arguing will not persuade me) that we owe it to any quarry to ensure (or do our damndest) a humane and clean kill. 7.5s are not man enough. I would not use less than a 6 on pigeons or game and would not use less than a 4 in steel at ducks. Your original post about 7.5s on a pond or BB's or 2's on the shore just goes to show that you do not have a clue when it comes to wildfowling. I would have had the same mind myself untill i watched a very experianced wildfowler dropping them with the above 7.5 steel load over deeks this weekend. The trick realy does seem to be range, this was on the marsh mind not semi tame ducks on a pond someplace they were every bit as dead as those i hit with my Italian 36 grm 4's. Just thought it worth bringing this up, as before witnessing it i should have totally agreed that 7.5's were daft - great fieldcraft plays a big part in getting them within the range though which was around 30 yds max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I would have had the same mind myself untill i watched a very experianced wildfowler dropping them with the above 7.5 steel load over deeks this weekend. The trick realy does seem to be range, this was on the marsh mind not semi tame ducks on a pond someplace they were every bit as dead as those i hit with my Italian 36 grm 4's. Just thought it worth bringing this up, as before witnessing it i should have totally agreed that 7.5's were daft - great fieldcraft plays a big part in getting them within the range though which was around 30 yds max thats why i think the lighter loads are better, but shotsize selection is very important. i`d use 6-5s on duck. lets face it, anything on top of the decoys doesnt need 3s but often will do the job. 7.5s is to small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 thats why i think the lighter loads are better, but shotsize selection is very important. i`d use 6-5s on duck. lets face it, anything on top of the decoys doesnt need 3s but often will do the job. 7.5s is to small. I don't plan on changing anytime soon but he is a very respected guy in the club with many years behind him and those duck were just as dead as my fours made them 7.5 or not, like i said i would have though the same prior and wouldn't have even entertained a load of steel 6's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Thanks I'll see about some steel 36g #4 if i get the nod, not sure what the others on the shoot use (it's a mates father in laws shoot) but they mainly use traditional english guns, what would the reconmendation be for a none steel proofed 2 3/4" chamber gun Bismuth? Not wanting to reopen the great debate but might get the option later this month to shoot some duck and been looking at Just carts but struggling to find the aforementioned steel carts 36g No.4 can anyone help? Also how many should i buy? for a morning and evening shoot, dont want to run out but dont want to be left with loads as they are cheap and I'll only do this once a year max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonevo Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 ADMIN How about making a sticky for the novice or uneducated on shotgun cartridges for shooting certain game/vermin Ie:7.5s 6s 5,4,3,BB,AA ,LG etc.... Im sure even the most experienced guns will appreciate this as a guide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 <!--quoteo(post=1142532:date=Aug 1 2010, 02:56 PM:name=HDAV)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HDAV @ Aug 1 2010, 02:56 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1142532"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thanks I'll see about some steel 36g #4 if i get the nod, not sure what the others on the shoot use (it's a mates father in laws shoot) but they mainly use traditional english guns, what would the reconmendation be for a none steel proofed 2 3/4" chamber gun Bismuth?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Not wanting to reopen the great debate but might get the option later this month to shoot some duck and been looking at Just carts but struggling to find the aforementioned steel carts 36g No.4 can anyone help? Also how many should i buy? for a morning and evening shoot, dont want to run out but dont want to be left with loads as they are cheap and I'll only do this once a year max. How many you buy will depend on alot of things...ask someone who shoots the said place often and they should eb able to give you an average amount of shots you will need. if your only doing it a few times a year then its worth shelling out extra pennys for some tungsten or bismuth i use Eley VIP Bismuth for ducks, 32g 5s and they cost me about 17.50 for 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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