vole Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 RSPCA took him to court for giving said squizzer a bath . Apparently they want you to put them in a sack then kill with a blow to the head,provided you have a hand left. Alternatively you can take it to a vet (not distressing at all is it ,a trip in the motor in a cage ? ) and pay the vet £70 to have it put down. The RSPCA clowns think all the messing is somehow more humane than a quick dunking. Wonder how you stand legally to shoot them in the trap ? http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/news/493102/Ma...y_squirrel.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 5 pages of discussion here........ Killing grey squirrels man is fined £1500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 RSPCA took him to court for giving said squizzer a bath . Apparently they want you to put them in a sack then kill with a blow to the head,provided you have a hand left. Alternatively you can take it to a vet (not distressing at all is it ,a trip in the motor in a cage ? ) and pay the vet £70 to have it put down. The RSPCA clowns think all the messing is somehow more humane than a quick dunking. Wonder how you stand legally to shoot them in the trap ? http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/news/493102/Ma...y_squirrel.html I'll be a advocate here, but drowning isn't humane, and its illegal in this country (quite rightly) to be cruel to an animal. If you trap animals, and plan to kill them, plan to do it in a humane fashion, full stop. He has no defence, its a cruel way of killing an animal. Shooting an animal in a trap is humane, unless you miss. Don't blame the rspca, they are there to stop just that....cruelty, regardless of the junk that'll come along now on this topic denouncing the rspca. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 These interfering tree huggers are certainly getting some clout these days. How something like this gets to court I do not know. The R.S.P.C.A. guidelines for despatching said beast are laughable. Catch it in a sack, how do you do that? Then despatch it with a single blow to the back of the head. What while it is still in the sack? How do you find the back of a wriggling Squirrels head, while it is in a sack? OK so this method is allegedly under review, so I'm wondering what idea they will come up with next. The Squirrel was caught in a trap, you know, that humane cage that slams shut once it enters. Try getting it out and putting it in a sack to hit it with a single blow, yes they are the recommendations, to the back of the head. Putting the cage with said Squirrel in, into a water butt makes a lot more sense. I think the R.S.P.C.A. need to have their wings clipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 These interfering tree huggers are certainly getting some clout these days. How something like this gets to court I do not know. The R.S.P.C.A. guidelines for despatching said beast are laughable. Catch it in a sack, how do you do that? Then despatch it with a single blow to the back of the head. What while it is still in the sack? How do you find the back of a wriggling Squirrels head, while it is in a sack? OK so this method is allegedly under review, so I'm wondering what idea they will come up with next. The Squirrel was caught in a trap, you know, that humane cage that slams shut once it enters. Try getting it out and putting it in a sack to hit it with a single blow, yes they are the recommendations, to the back of the head. Putting the cage with said Squirrel in, into a water butt makes a lot more sense. I think the R.S.P.C.A. need to have their wings clipped. You do. My bold. Its against the law to be cruel, and so it should be. I reckon, if anyone wants to dispute it, I've killed more animals than anyone on this site. If you're gonna trap, have a humane way of killing your trapped animals, simple really, and you're on the right side of the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskdale hawks Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 These interfering tree huggers are certainly getting some clout these days. How something like this gets to court I do not know. The R.S.P.C.A. guidelines for despatching said beast are laughable. Catch it in a sack, how do you do that? Then despatch it with a single blow to the back of the head. What while it is still in the sack? How do you find the back of a wriggling Squirrels head, while it is in a sack? OK so this method is allegedly under review, so I'm wondering what idea they will come up with next. The Squirrel was caught in a trap, you know, that humane cage that slams shut once it enters. Try getting it out and putting it in a sack to hit it with a single blow, yes they are the recommendations, to the back of the head. Putting the cage with said Squirrel in, into a water butt makes a lot more sense. I think the R.S.P.C.A. need to have their wings clipped. I suggest that you read my reply in the original thread! You might just learn somthing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskdale hawks Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 RSPCA took him to court for giving said squizzer a bath . Apparently they want you to put them in a sack then kill with a blow to the head,provided you have a hand left. Alternatively you can take it to a vet (not distressing at all is it ,a trip in the motor in a cage ? ) and pay the vet £70 to have it put down. The RSPCA clowns think all the messing is somehow more humane than a quick dunking. Wonder how you stand legally to shoot them in the trap ? http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/news/493102/Ma...y_squirrel.html Take a look at my reply in the original thread! You might just learn somthing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 If you look at the Daily Mail webby here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12...g-squirrel.html You will see the chap, with his trap and barrel of water. I would have thought that the quickest dispatch (and safest) would have actually been the barrel of water. No messing about, trap gets picked up and completely submerged in barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 i would have used the lawn roller! Quick and easy :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 OOps, yup, read the original thread now, saw the link after I posted. learn't something too. As said on the thread, pest control, or killing animals, can not always be conducted humanely, though I'm sure we all try our best, but there is always a few that will suffer. The bird that is winged, the Fox that is wounded, the rat that wont let you pick it up to despatch it humanely, or Squirrel for that matter. I do like the idea of taking them to the R.S.P.C.A. though, in the trap, and let them deal with it, just in case you break some ruling you are not aware of. Perhaps that is what Mr Elliot should have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 fundamentally drowning an animal takes a few minutes during which it suffers much the same as if someone drowned you, there isn't any need for it these days, an airgun does the job legally and simply. I'd bet this guy was offered advice and told them to go forth and multiply hence the prosecution, most on here don't condone cruelty but if you do because its only a squirrel perhaps you need to step back and think about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 I Googled "how long does it take to drown a squirrel?" No definitive answers but this was interesting: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/f...5590411790.html I like the hooking up to the car exhaust idea :unsure: Fruitier than a nut cake etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 does remind me of getting a call from a friend of my sisters who found a squirrel in a fen trap screaming in pain, I had to go out and clobber it poor *** was caught by his leg and balls no idea how long it had been like it but guess that would have preferred to be drowned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted July 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 I think it is a pity to criminalize someone who tries to do the right thing. Saying that I was quite miffed to shoot a rabbit into a stream where it thrashed around until I fished it out and finished it off. I imagine wrenching a squirrel out of a trap to sack it or holding it down on the table for the vet to inject is definitely more cruel than drowning in the trap. I think death by drowning is nothing compared to what animals deal out to each other on a daily basis . I think it is a case of humans imagining themselves drowning and assuming an animal feels the same. I took an injured hedgehog to an RSPCA sanctuary for wildlife. It was full of half shot foxes and crows that might have been better off drowned,if killing them was the intention. I was left in no doubt as to their views on the shooting community whatever the reason it is carried out. I look after people for a living and see a bit of life and death of my fellow humans . I think things have gone a bit mad when this happens. After all , trapped rats have been killed like this for ages . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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