Variation/open ticket/adding firearms

[kipper]

Hello Chaps, and ladies

 

I am sending off for a variation (After selling a FAC air rifle I would like another 1) I would also like a more suitable rifle for fox controll Im thinking a .223 . I have been out with a mate of mine a few times with his .223 and it is very effective on mr fox,

 

some of the land i shoot on has muntjack on and the farmer has told us in the past that we can have one or two for the table if we want.

 

What are the legal requirements/ smallest caliber for shooting muntjack? I do not want to get into shooting deer nor do I wand a cannon, Would I be able to lagally shoot muntjack with a .223 ? I dont want to apply for a .243 if I dont require one

 

Is the .243 round much bigger than the .223 and what are the cost differance between the two rounds? ammo and rifle wise?

 

Oh and I am also going to ask for a open ticket at the same time. I have had my fac for about 3.5 yrs and used just over 2000 rounds of .22rim ammo, what do you think the chances are

 

Any advice will be greatfully received.

 

Kipper

[kdubya]

for muntjac and CWD .220 and 1000 ft/lbs is OK .240 and above in England for larger species so .223 is fine if your local FLD play the game , after 3.5 years used plenty of ammo,then no reason you should not get your ticket opened, but again some regions are sensible some are not you can only ask.

 

KW

[Breastman]

for muntjac and CWD .220 and 1000 ft/lbs is OK .240 and above in England for larger species so .223 is fine if your local FLD play the game , after 3.5 years used plenty of ammo,then no reason you should not get your ticket opened, but again some regions are sensible some are not you can only ask.

 

KW

 

 

The cost difference between .243 and .223 is a bit of a "how long is a piece of string" question. On average though .223 is cheaper

 

Mark

Edited August 19, 2010 by Breastman

[scout]

Agree with all the above comments, but would be surprised if you get an open ticket for your first centre fire. I was refused mine after 3 years , having fired 25,000 rounds of 22 , because I had only had my CF 1 year.

But as said every force is different, so all you can do is ask.

 

Good luck, I would have thought the 223 is perfect for what you want, but if you do take a few deer then it soon becomes addictive, so you may want to think of something above 240, if you have suitable quarry locally.

[Oxon88]

Hi,

 

Hunting for Chinese Water Deer and Muntjac: a rifle having a calibre of more than .220 inches and a muzzle energy equal to or more than 1000 foot pounds, and a bullet weighing not less than 50 grains (all criteria apply)

 

There is quite a difference in size between .223 and .243. Both are suitable fox calibres. Obviously the .223 will be easier on the wallet in terms of ammunition. The rifle cost just depends on how deep your pockets are I guess.

 

As for getting an open ticket after 3.5 years and only 2000lr rounds..Ii doubt it. They only usually consider issuing an "open ticket" after the first renewal (5 years) and you should have shooting permissions in several locations.

 

Hope this helps.

Dave.

[al4x]

There is not a lot in it if you shoot a .223 and .243 back to back. The .243 gives you more ability to go after bigger deer should the opportunity arise and is a fine fox gun. There is nothing in it price wise when you buy the gun, ammo will be a bit more but not that much if it likes the privi stuff and you don't tend to use that much of it unless you have a very serious fox problem

[kipper]

Thanks for the advice chaps

 

Much appreciated Thanks.

 

Kipper