Fen Fowler Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 PLEASE,PLEASE can anyone advise me on how to stop my 18 mnth old lab from running into any dog he sees.He is normally very obedient and is very responsive to the stop whistle,until he sees another dog he isnt aggressive.I have tried shouting,using the stop whistle & shaking him by the scruff of his neck all to no avail. I would be so gratefull if anyone has an idea that will work. cheers Fenfowler Fenfowler, I have moved your post to Country Sports, you are more likely to get dog training advice there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnetizer Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 Set him up on a blind date with a friendly looking Pit Bull or other killer. Its going to hurt but they tend to learn ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 The main solution I have seen used, is keeping the dog on a choke chain collar when other dogs are likely to be around. It sounds cruel, but if you jerk him back off his legs a few times, he should learn. I suppose you could consider one of those electric training collars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadSpringer Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 Hi Fen, This can occur when a dog doesn’t socialise with other dogs as a youngster (as yours still is). Not sure if this is the case with your young lab. If it is, you can’t blame him for wanting to greet & socialise with other dogs. Try to allow him to spend some time with other dogs; it has to be on your terms and when you allow it. When you are out walking, walk him at heel and when you see another dog make him sit, put the lead on and remain there until the dog has passed by. He will no doubt lunge forward to greet the passing dog, pull him very firmly back on the lead whilst saying NO in a very stern voice and make him sit back on the same spot. You will have to repeat this process many times and possibly for many months, don’t despair he will get the message eventually!! When he stays sat every time on the lead as another dog passes, try him without the lead on but be prepared to grab him if he moves, put the lead back on and don’t try him without it for a few more days. Whenever you correct a dog always makes it sit, stand back, count to 10 or 20 then carry on. This gives the dog a chance to think about what its done and you a chance to gather your thoughts. Hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 Ah, electric collars...always a surefire way to get a debate going! My young springer, just over two and a half now, had a terrible habit of barking when he was about 12 months old. Whenever I went away from him, he would bark his head off, driving the neighbours mad. He was'nt on his own, he lives outside with the old dog, but he would keep barking, even if I ignored him for hours. In desperation, I realised I had to try an anti-bark collar, or get rid of him. The day the collar arrived, I went through the usual routine, dogs out for a walk, into the kennel, and me into the house. As soon as I disappeared around the corner, I knew the pup would start. I put the collar on him, at the lowest power setting, and walked away, then around the corner. What happened next was amazing...the dog barked...then yelped. A minute later he barked again...and yelped. After that, to this day, he's never barked again, unless to warn me of somebody...to say I was impressed was an understatement. In the very short term, yes it may hurt the dog slightly, but it would be well worth hiring a push buuton collar for a week. As soon as your dog runs after another one, blow the stop whistle and press the button...it WILL make him think, and could save a lot of stress and upset for you and the dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Wildfowler Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 To stop my Lab running in when she was a young dog I used the 20 yard lead after doing several back somersalts she got the idea that when Isaid no I ment it it may sound hard but it works the more speed she got the greater the effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 FF, I completely agree with Madspringer and would just like to add that, no matter what the reason the dog is disobeying you, you must instill a little extra general discipline to make up for it. How much depends on the dog itself. Every time the dog ignores (disobeys) your voice command or whistle, he pushes the boundry and learns something about how much he can get away with. Nip it in the bud and show him who's boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
columbus Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 As a pro gundog trainer i would be intrested in NTTF opinion on electric collers. Having never had any experiance of them id be intrested in his views on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 Columbus; The electronic training collar in the correct hands is a fabulous training tool. Used improperly it can devestate a dog in under a minute. The e-collars are not meant to be strapped on and the hydro turned on high. Collars are meant to be introduced over a period of 7 to 10 days where no electricity is used, but onlead training and controlled yard work take place while the dog wheres the collar. When it is time to use stimulation with the collar, it is done at the lowest level to which the dog will respond. Most people think that an e-collar is only used to deliver a high voltage correction this is one of the worst applications and most widely abused uses . A proper collar program works to balance the dog both coming and going, and giving and taking. During this program the dog will learn to stop low level stimulation by going away, coming towards, picking up, or leaving an object when asked to do so. Electronic training is not meant to replace proper ground work and basic obediance, and is not a shortcut, but is a compliment to a good training program. To learn more on the proper use, and training procedures visit the library for pointers or retrievers at http://www.dobbsdogs.com these people developed the electroic collar and training program with Tri Tronics. For everyone who is wondering I do train with an e-collar but only after all of my basic ground work is finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 How do others feel about electronic collar use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 It wasn,t about, when I was "training" dogs and so I have no personal experience of them. As Deako indicated, they have had a very mixed reception over here. It is so easy for the "cowboys" in the dog world, to abuse them and the horror stories have travelled around. I think the "old school" attitude is, that lots of good dogs were trained without them and at best they are considered unethical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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