SNAKEBITE Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Eagerly ripped open my BASC magazine last night and was pleasantly surprised when I read the airgunning article. In a publication that concentrates more on the powder burners it was good to see an article that bestowes the virtues of the airgun without the patting on the head and the "when you grow up son you can have a real gun" attitude that can prevail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Snake, Have you had a bad experience with large group of drunk men? I read the article BTW and thought it was well written, even though I wouldn't bother with one of those toy pop pop air gun things that children tend to shoot :thumbs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted February 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Have you had a bad experience with large group of drunk men? Yes, but I was one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24joy Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 Snake I'm sure your not alone, few sherberts most gob's get bigger, my problem is my belly. BASC mag very good, should let them know, and a bit more help in informing land owners of the up side of airguns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 I thought they fact that they (BASC) have aledgedly been telling farmers that they should welcome BASC members on their land to shoot is a positive move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 I thought they fact that they (BASC) have aledgedly been telling farmers that they should welcome BASC members on their land to shoot is a positive move. hi Stuart. what happens if you are not a member of basc but a member of another shooting org. sound like this could be a back door way of compulsory basc membership to me.good for the basc but not for the shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 I was surprised too! LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted February 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 what happens if you are not a member of basc but a member of another shooting org. sound like this could be a back door way of compulsory basc membership to me.good for the basc but not for the shooters. That is the trouble with having more than one organisation. This is the reason why I went with BASC. It seems to be the only one that is recognised by farmers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Despite the cost, I went with them, for the insurance( which I know I can get for less, but also access to Bisley which I know I can't) but I do feel the membership fee is too, high. But if we all join loads of small organisations we loose that 'one voice' strength. IMHO if BASC got their joining fee back under 50 quid again they would get more money in as people would tempted to come back onboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Hi Guys, Yes BASC are trying to get more shooting for our members by promoting BASC to the farming community. We are advertising in a magazine called British Farmer & Grower which is published by the NFU and goes to all NFU members every month. There is a full page advery in every other issue telling farmers that they should welcome shooters onto thier land and check that anyone shooting has insurance. Yes we do make the point also that BASC members are insured. In months when the adverts are not running we have an editorial article promoting shooting on farmland. BASC wants to ensure that shooting is well represented in political and media circles- our activities in these areas will benefit all. However we are also a members organisation - our members pay us a fee and expect and deserve a good service- and as such if we want to help our members get more shooting then we will jolly well do so! If you do not want to join BASC then that is your chioce, but what is your organisation doing for you? Cheap insurance- heck I can get that anywhere- what are you getting for your money? David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Hi Guys, Yes BASC are trying to get more shooting for our members by promoting BASC to the farming community. We are advertising in a magazine called British Farmer & Grower which is published by the NFU and goes to all NFU members every month. There is a full page advery in every other issue telling farmers that they should welcome shooters onto thier land and check that anyone shooting has insurance. Yes we do make the point also that BASC members are insured. In months when the adverts are not running we have an editorial article promoting shooting on farmland. BASC wants to ensure that shooting is well represented in political and media circles- our activities in these areas will benefit all. However we are also a members organisation - our members pay us a fee and expect and deserve a good service- and as such if we want to help our members get more shooting then we will jolly well do so! If you do not want to join BASC then that is your chioce, but what is your organisation doing for you? Cheap insurance- heck I can get that anywhere- what are you getting for your money? David Thank you David LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Lurcher Boy- Great words at the end of your message - know the song well! D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 BASC doesn't insure every member...in fact if you're a trade member you pay almost twice the rate and get absolutely jack s**** for it! Over to you David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Trade members are insured- indeed for your money you can have two named people listed as members (say you and somone else who works with you) and both are covered under the policy. The policy coveres recreational activities only by the way - if you make a living out of shooting then you will have to get yourself covered under a commerical policy of course. Trade members also get a free link to our web site, and regular newsletters. Later this year they will also be offered very competative C Card and charge card rates and we will also be launching a special commercial insurance product as well, which we hope will save our trade members more than the sub they pay. A bit more than jack **** as you put it! Regards David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 The policy coveres recreational activities only by the way - if you make a living out of shooting then you will have to get yourself covered under a commerical policy of course. Trade members also get a free link to our web site, and regular newsletters. Later this year they will also be offered very competative C Card and charge card rates and we will also be launching a special commercial insurance product as well, which we hope will save our trade members more than the sub they pay. A bit more than jack **** as you put it! Regards David Am I stoopid or something??? Some months back I pointed out the 'recreational activity' clause in the BASC policy. What's the benefit to a trade member in paying nearly double the subs for nothing? And don't quote me 'a free link and regular newsletters' Those aren't benefits they're a cost nothing sop. What trade member would be deemed by an insurer to be participating in 'recreational activities' if shooting's his/her business? A proper commercial policy within the trade members fees, now that would be something but I bet it won't be part of the deal. So come on David justify the cost and benefits of being a 'trade member' 'cause I can't see it. Actually while your at it justify being a member at all 'cause it seems to me (and many others on here) that BASC just run along with whatever new rules and regs this government throw at us and then set up courses (at a cost to the members) to help us comply. That's not fighting our corner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 'cause it seems to me (and many others on here) that BASC just run along with whatever new rules and regs this government throw at us and then set up courses (at a cost to the members) to help us comply. That's not fighting our corner! very good point, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Not sure what this has got to do with pigeon shooting - so if you want to take issue with the BASC membership package I suggest you set up a new thread. Look again ay my last post- you GET 2 MEMBERSHIPS for your money and it does not cost double - so you get a discount! How can I possibley sell you commerical insurance for less than £100? Get real - the cost of your commerical insurance will depend on the type of business you are in, how many people you employ, how much you tunover, etc etc. Many of our trade members do go recreational shooting as well - so thay join BASC through this discounted rate for that. Other trade benefits are on the way that will save many of our trade members alot of money - as I said in my last post...... As I said, if you want to satrt another thread then please do so - but lets not clog this up with issues unrelated to the original post. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Mark, The requirement for training comes from an EC regulation (853/2004) which aims to improve food hygiene standards across the European Union. The implementation is being carried out by the Food Standards Agency in the UK. The rules apply to people who sell game to dealers etc. Surely you see this as a good hting? Interesting that you and others take issue with BASC running courses for those who need the training- are you also complaining about the NGO and all the other people that are running the courses as well - or is it just BASC? The rules do not stop you from giving your bag or part of it to friends etc - and this issue has already had a pretty good airing on another thread. Again I say lets not clog up a thread about increasing the opportunity for people to go shooting with other issues. Regards David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I agree with David,if you`d like to bash the BASC then start a new thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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