Bleeh Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 I picked up this rook rifle off a friend, and it is currently being held under Section 58 of the firearms act (as an antique). It's a bit weird as it's got NO makers mark, and NO proof marks what so ever. It's a octaganol barrel, and the 'trap door' action is worked by pushing the hammer back (has both a cocked and half cocked setting), and lifting the action to the verticle postion as can be seen. It seems to be 9mm but I havn't got a bore guide to double check. Can anyone give me any more infomation? (about the gun, not the revelent law which I'm quiet up to date on) Pictures!. (sorry about low quality, taken on phone) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Seen a few of them before. Belgian made and sadly not worth much. Interesting curosity piece though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Iv seen one of these before there is a name for that type of gun but i cant think of it just now. Are you sure its not 9mm rim fire? the one i saw was. so it not sect 58 as ammo is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted November 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Iv seen one of these before there is a name for that type of gun but i cant think of it just now. Are you sure its not 9mm rim fire? the one i saw was. so it not sect 58 as ammo is available. I'm not going to get into the details, but it's perfectly possible to hold an antique 9mm/.410/12b without a license. The whole details are a bit of a legal grey area (in Other words, it's all up to dealing with an FAO, or a court, and there opinion of the wording of the law), but it's perfectly possible. Further More, I've had a word with BASC and I'm going to end up writing this gun onto my SGC, just to stop the worry of being a back room lawyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsm1968 Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 A mate of mine had a very similar rifle from his granfathers estate. His was chambered for "300 Sherwood", a popular caliber at the time. It produced similar balistics to the 38 special cartrige. They must have been well used as while out metal detecting I have dug up quite a few bullets from rook rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 I'm not going to get into the details, but it's perfectly possible to hold an antique 9mm/.410/12b without a license. The whole details are a bit of a legal grey area (in Other words, it's all up to dealing with an FAO, or a court, and there opinion of the wording of the law), but it's perfectly possible. Further More, I've had a word with BASC and I'm going to end up writing this gun onto my SGC, just to stop the worry of being a back room lawyer. I was not trying to teach you to suck eggs, I just thought it might be work mentioning that was all. I was not implying your holding a gun illegally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 It looks similar to the type that were converted to small gauge single shot shotgun for the cottager. Commonly done, and rarer to find an unmolested original example these days. Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 A friend of mine at the club has something similar in 30 cal, not worth much but interesting none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Home Guard Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Nice gun. How much are these worth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted November 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Nice gun. How much are these worth? There worth varies hugely, depending on multiple factors. The main ones being there original maker (Holland and Holland Rook/Rabbit rifles fetch a higher price, etc)and there original (and intact) caliber (Un-bored out ones to small rook rifle calibers being quiet rare). Start at around £70 - up to £2000. Mick's gun page is a fairly good guide to randomness of the prices, with one gun looking more or less exactly the same as the second, but being worth a good thousand pounds more. Check out: Mick's Guns As for this one, I'm guessing the low hundreds, but feel free to give me an offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottonseed Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 There worth varies hugely, depending on multiple factors. The main ones being there original maker (Holland and Holland Rook/Rabbit rifles fetch a higher price, etc)and there original (and intact) caliber (Un-bored out ones to small rook rifle calibers being quiet rare). Start at around £70 - up to £2000. Mick's gun page is a fairly good guide to randomness of the prices, with one gun looking more or less exactly the same as the second, but being worth a good thousand pounds more. Check out: Mick's Guns As for this one, I'm guessing the low hundreds, but feel free to give me an offer Rather than a rook rifle, I'd suggest it's an 8mm gallery rifle designed for indoor target shooting and chambered for a Flobert rimfire cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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