no proofing

[bigfra]

hi,i have been offered a ruger .22 mag rimfire rifle and have noticed the barrel seems to have been shortend,and threaded for a moderator although the moderator is missing,after inspection i can't find any proof marks and i am wondering is the gun fully legal?

can anyone advise me on this matter,thanks

[Dekers]

The old chestnut.

 

You will have to go to court and fight a test case to find if it is legal.

 

Jackson Rifles say it is, some say it isn't..

 

In the last 18-20 months I have bought two, cut and threaded and NOT re-proofed rimfires, from two different RFD, and sold a Cut and threaded and unprofed rimfire to a RFD.

 

Was that illegal?

[Billy.]

I used to be against selling unproofed rifles (after screwcutting), but I'm on the fence now. I usually end up quoting the law, but after looking through and through, there really isn't a definitive answer....

 

Shortening I would like to think is a different matter, but it's not as if you're thinning the barrel :blink:

Edited December 22, 2010 by Billy.

[Scully]

I don't understand why a gun has to be re-proofed after shortening,the legislation makes little sense to me,however,a mates Sako was screw-cut and the amount of metal left at the muzzle after the process was miniscule.

If a gun has been submitted for re-proof shouldn't there be a proof house certificate with it?Or am I being thick?Once bought an 870 which had been converted from FAC onto SGC which came with a proof house ticket,and I also own a gun which has never been proofed,but I have no intention of selling so it doesn't apply.

[Billy.]

I don't understand why a gun has to be re-proofed after shortening,the legislation makes little sense to me,however,a mates Sako was screw-cut and the amount of metal left at the muzzle after the process was miniscule.

If a gun has been submitted for re-proof shouldn't there be a proof house certificate with it?Or am I being thick?Once bought an 870 which had been converted from FAC onto SGC which came with a proof house ticket,and I also own a gun which has never been proofed,but I have no intention of selling so it doesn't apply.

 

It gets a stamp on the barrel from the proof house. That's your certificate.

[njc110381]

I'd just buy it. From what I can make of it if any laws are broken it's on the part of the seller so you have nothing to worry about either way. Personally I don't see the point. Who's to say it wasn't shortened before it was proofed in the first place? They would only stamp the barrel if it was an after job I think?

[scotland rifles]

its almost like the rule on owning a moderator OFF ticket.

 

no need for it to be proofed at all (even the old chestnut saying that it needs to be proofed before resale ) when you get it from a RFD it may or may not have a proof mark, so as long as you are happy then crack on,

 

some RFD's insist on having it done ase per their insurance requirements (or thats what they will tell you).

 

as for the Moderator one,

 

where do all these no name no serial number'd ones come from thats on 1,000's of ticket up and down the land.

 

1 rule for one and a money making rule for the others.

 

bob.