fireshot Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Hi ordered x2 pigeons (which work well) and x2 crows ,the problem is that the crows dont fly aswell as the pigeons ? any tips please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 the length of the fishing line that connects the rear of the wings may differ - check and adjust (mine were too long) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbird Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 the carbon fibre rod has a lot to do with movement. i got some thinner ones off e**y for slight winds and it has made aa big diference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I have two sets of wing bars for mine, for light or heavy wind, the light wind ones always work best and give a better flap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireshot Posted January 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 What diameter is the thinner rod ? and what lenght do you have the wings slightly bent upwards?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbird Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 have a look here : http://shop.ebay.co.uk/flyingdog_rc/m.html 1.5 mm for strong wing and 0.80 for light winds i position the birds so they face slightley upwards kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 I place mine on a 45 degree angle, flap much better than horizontal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_T Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 I always fold up the leading and trailing wing edges also to help with the 'flapping' action. I place mine at an angle upwards as well. Cheers, Dr_T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firebrand Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 I always fold up the leading and trailing wing edges also to help with the 'flapping' action. I place mine at an angle upwards as well. Cheers, Dr_T I guess I'm doing something wrong but my 2 Hypa's dont flap as I've seen in the video. Im using a single speed rotor but any wing 'movement'(cant call it flapping) is only when the bird meets the wind and then again when it leaves it. Is this what I should be expecting or should there really be some type of flapping? Ive tried most things ive seen on here above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 thicker rod in the crow. if you watch a crow you will notice its wings are very straight a slow when flapping and then mostly riding the air currents and thermals, when it lands it drops in to a spot. a pigeon flaps like ******* and doesn't glide much, when it lands it will glide in and then pop up into the wind and land. two very differant ways of flight. i use the thin fibre rod in both birds but then i tape more rod to the wing section of the crow so the movement is from the body of the flapper. the pigeon i leave with thin rod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Im using a single speed rotor but any wing 'movement'(cant call it flapping) is only when the bird meets the wind and then again when it leaves it. just like a pigeon landing. it should only flap as it hits the wind, it shouldn't be continual movement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_T Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 They "flap" around 1/3 to 1/2 of each rotation depending on wind speed and rotation speed. You need a little wind to make them work effectively. Otherwise switch to dead birds on a still day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Definitely place them at least at a 45 degree angle, with the back facing inward, this is the way to get the best movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firebrand Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 just like a pigeon landing. it should only flap as it hits the wind, it shouldn't be continual movement Nick-Thank you, your reply is really helpful. I felt silly asking it as I know there are some out there who ridicule questions like this but I didn't know quite what to expect of the Hypa so if I didnt ask I would never know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) Definitely place them at least at a 45 degree angle, with the back facing inward, this is the way to get the best movement. dont agree use mine as supposed IE level with the ground, have 3 sets all work very well indeed, yes you need to get used to them, no hardship trying them out till your satisfied with them, mine flap well into any, even light wind (speed is also important) glide down of it, very effective deeks are hypa's. KW Edited January 21, 2011 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 i always tilt mine inwards slightly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Definitely place them at least at a 45 degree angle, with the back facing inward, this is the way to get the best movement. dont agree use mine as supposed IE level with the ground, have 3 sets all work very well indeed, yes you need to get used to them, no hardship trying them out till your satisfied with them, mine flap well into any, even light wind (speed is also important) glide down of it, very effective deeks are hypa's. KW When I first bought mine, Matt (Manager at UKSW at the time) told me that was how they were supposed to be set up (tilted inward). It works for me, but each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_T Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Level or tilted inwards makes little difference in my experience. The main factors are wind, rotation speed, rod stiffness, and folding up the wing edges (leading and trailing) as per instructions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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