Gareth Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) .... behaviour issues? //EDIT// Hi all, My puppy jack is going to be 13 weeks on Friday. He is a lab springer cross. His learning seems to have slowed a bit, and sometimes he can be quite aggressive towards me. Especially after he has had a telling off. After I have pinned him down and stared at him till he looks away, he often gets angrier. I've noticed a few times, when he does start to get aggressive he has also tried to hump my arm or my leg. I've had a gut feeling for a little while now that this could be the cause. He has literally started humping my arm 5 times in the few mins I've been writing this message. Are they connected in any way? What can I do to prevent both of them, or at least make them better? His aggression is really quite bad at times, teeth out, barking, growling and biting if he can get hold of me. He only stops if I grab the scruff of his neck and pin him down with my hand on his chest. If I walk away he will jump up biting my trousers etc... As soon as his jabs have cleared (1 week on Friday) I will take him to some socialisation and training sessions. He can't carry on like this. I don't get it, one second he will be falling asleep on me, and the next he will be going mad as described above. Thanks for any advice, Gareth Edited January 12, 2011 by Gareth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) I'm no expert at all but I think he's too young to be learning much at the moment, he should be playing and having fun. If you back-off a bit and keep things up-beat, give him treats etc when he's good and say NO and walk away from him if he is misbehaving. Pinning him down and growling at him at his age may only be getting him used to aggression. On the other hand he may have a problem with aggressive behavior and he need to see a pro trainer. Good luck. EDIT: Humping probably is a dominance thing, so may be related. Edited January 12, 2011 by FalconFN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom&Dexter Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Sounds like you listened to the wrong advice in the last thread you posted its all linked with him being a bloody puppy Its sounds like you are doing him no favors Did you get him booked into puppy classes ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted January 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) You may be right Tom, I'll go back and see what you suggested and try that. I've tried quite a few different things now. Although he's bad sometimes I still love him to bits, just want to do what's right for him in the end. It's hard to do much with him. He can't go for walks until next friday. He's quite happy chasing after toys I throw for him, and I always praise lots and never take them from him, but often when I touch him to give fuss and attention he starts to bite, and then he gets hard to control. I will keep on trying! We are looking for some nearby classes now and will take him as soon as his last jab has taken effect (next Friday) Edited January 12, 2011 by Gareth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 give the dog a rest let him be a pup!! wait until he's 6/8 month's and then start training him.the things to be going on with is recall/sit/stay which you can apply when your feeding him.once he's confident walking on a lead start to train him to heel.when he's biting you he's playing to much now and you'll blow his head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted January 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I don't do very much with him at all, just sit, lay down and recall. We play often and i show him loads of affection, but sometimes that just leads to more biting. He's not picking up that he shouldn't be up stairs or on the sofa. I have re-read Tom&Dexters last post in the other thread and told my girlfriend. We will have to chill out and see where that takes us. Also about to take him for his first short walk, can't wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danimal Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 puppies can "air hump" based on nothing, they can smell a different smell or get over excited and just compulsively pump lol chances are at 13 weeks he has little testosterone and its just excitement! try to ignore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Sure I've heard all this before??? http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/148983-is-my-puppy-trying-to-become-dominant-over-me-only/page__fromsearch__1 Thought so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted January 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Sorry if I made u unhappy somehow JBS, that wasn't my intention. I tried what some others had mentioned in the other thread, and didn't seem to be getting anywhere. I also thought I had spotted a pattern with the humping, so asked if they could be linked. In the end I've learned some more new info which should do me and the dog some good. As I've said previously, I'm new to this and want to do the best for the dog. Instead of going it alone I thought I was best to ask the more experienced guys for their opinions. I will also be getting some lessons booked ASAP, so I/we continue to learn and he gets to socialise. Thanks for all of your help, everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Fairplay for asking for help . I'm no expert but just give him time to grow up, it's amazing how much more mellowed they get as they start to mature(admitidley something else usually comes along to deal with) but he has not even seen the outside world at present. You and your girlfreind are all he sees and once you can walk him etc he will have other things to focus on. Remember he is only a pup .... It's very much like having a toddler he will get better but don't get to pent up about it. A few good friends that I shoot with gave me some sound advice that I always remember....... The dog will only learn as quick as he can, not as quick as you want him too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 No offence taken nor intended! I think you just need to chill out a bit and stop worrying, it will all come in time. Your pup is going to be a pain in the **** for the next few years and will do things that will make your sides split laughing and your blood boil in anger but you just need to enjoy it. If you think you have problems now then wait until it see's a pheasant!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Its a puppy thing. let him be a puppy. if you has to you will see that they play fight, bark, growl and show teeth. its all a park of there growing up. if he is biting hard the yelp very loud, get up, and walk away. that same as the mother would do when the pups are biting at her trying to play. yes they do need to learn the rules but by what im reading i would say you have been watching to much cesar millan and the way he stops aggression on older dogs. i took one of mine for lessons, never again, not with the village lap dog puppy classes anyway. i only went for the socialising of the puppy more than anything and in all truth they were ****. get the puppy up in the day time and just walk, stop and chat to people and let the puppy be a puppy and let people pet it. he will learn that hands are a good thing and people give fuss, which he will like. if you keep laying your hands on him and growling all you'll do it make the dog think that when he sees hands he will get pinned down and told off, in turn it will lead to pup biting at hands before he gets told off. when i started out i was the same and didnt know any better, i think we all did at first. but you soon learn to relax more. just try to remember that you need to do everything you can to be the centre of that dogs live, the be all, his best mate that he can always trust, after all thats what your going to ask of him. your hands are the thing the pup will always respond to and the first thing that he will see come towards him so hands re always for nice things, never for punishment or your dog will start ducking and cowering when you raise your hand to give a command. not good. learn to use your voice for a ####ing. relax, have fun, enjoy the puppy as there not a puppy for long. i know its hard but you'll look back and wonder what all the fuss was about, i know i do. all the best Phil PS sorry if there's letters missing on my ramblings, my keyboards playing up.lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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