silverhawk Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Just had a result with a golf club .Ive been speaking with the head green keeper over the past few days and left copys of fac and insurance so he can pass this on and get me some signed permission.Just checked with firearms and lands not cleared but spoke to a very helpfull feo and im going to submit a copy of the permission letter once i get it so they can clear the land for me.I cant see it being a problem for 22lr as its over 500 acres there are some houses near by but only one side of the land so i wont be shooting near or towards that end.Anybody ever have land not cleared for any reason?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) Just had a result with a golf club .Ive been speaking with the head green keeper over the past few days and left copys of fac and insurance so he can pass this on and get me some signed permission.Just checked with firearms and lands not cleared but spoke to a very helpfull feo and im going to submit a copy of the permission letter once i get it so they can clear the land for me.I cant see it being a problem for 22lr as its over 500 acres there are some houses near by but only one side of the land so i wont be shooting near or towards that end.Anybody ever have land not cleared for any reason?. Well done Why not use this as an opportunity to get your FAC opened? Instead of going through all the grief of getting the FEO round, just say that it is clear that your services are in higher demand and that you've been unable to shoot foxes in the past which have killed chickens on uncleared land, because it was after the licensing office had closed. Edited January 21, 2011 by Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) i have a similar question, but apologies if its a thread hijack. i have just been given another permission over land only about 30 acres(not cleared). the landowner asked me to thin out some feral pigeons in her barns. now i will most likely be using my hw100 for the pigeons, but i would like to get the land cleared for 22lr as well. i have yet to have a walk around to see if there is signs of rabbit, she keeps horses so i could imagine that rabbit holes would be unwelcome. i would like to be able to zero my 22lr on the land as its just round the corner from me. so my question is will i need to find rabbits to get the land cleared? (please assume that the land is safe for a 22lr) Edited January 21, 2011 by artschool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 so my question is will i need to find rabbits to get the land cleared? (please assume that the land is safe for a 22lr) No. That question did actually have me scratching my head. So you are asking "Does my FEO have to see rabbits to approve the land, so long as it's already deemed safe" I would never say you 'just want to zero' or they'll be looking at it more like a range, than a pest control area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiceychilli57 Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Well done Why not use this as an opportunity to get your FAC opened? Instead of going through all the grief of getting the FEO round, just say that it is clear that your services are in higher demand and that you've been unable to shoot foxes in the past which have killed chickens on uncleared land, because it was after the licensing office had closed. If you have had your fac for a while and normally renewed it at least once they shouldnt have a problem with granting an open cert, depends on the force i suppose. For that area cant see it being rejected. If its on the outskirts of a town and only a small area it gets a bit harder, number of footpaths crossing the ground has a influence as well. Only issue would be with the number of people who have access to the golf course. You would probably have to speculate only using it when golf club is closed. Seems obvious but its all in the details. well done on getting the permision granted hope it gives you some good shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiceychilli57 Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 i have a similar question, but apologies if its a thread hijack. i have just been given another permission over land only about 30 acres(not cleared). the landowner asked me to thin out some feral pigeons in her barns. now i will most likely be using my hw100 for the pigeons, but i would like to get the land cleared for 22lr as well. i have yet to have a walk around to see if there is signs of rabbit, she keeps horses so i could imagine that rabbit holes would be unwelcome. i would like to be able to zero my 22lr on the land as its just round the corner from me. so my question is will i need to find rabbits to get the land cleared? (please assume that the land is safe for a 22lr) you wont need to prove there are rabbits. Saying the land would be used for zeroing and pest control would be fine. Depends on location and surrounding houses. If there is a footpath or houses around the land then unlikely but good luck with it anyway you wont get without asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 No. That question did actually have me scratching my head. So you are asking "Does my FEO have to see rabbits to approve the land, so long as it's already deemed safe" I would never say you 'just want to zero' or they'll be looking at it more like a range, than a pest control area. you wont need to prove there are rabbits. Saying the land would be used for zeroing and pest control would be fine. Depends on location and surrounding houses. If there is a footpath or houses around the land then unlikely but good luck with it anyway you wont get without asking thanks guys. all my current permissions have already been cleared. this is the first one that i have had to get the feo out for a look. the owner has asked me to provide pest control so am telling no lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted January 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Hi artscholl thats ok,22lr rounds do tend to bounce off everything so shooting a 22lr around hourses is prob not a good idea.You dont need to prove theres rabbit problems to get land cleared as all the feo does is check the land on google maps or visit the ground to see if its safe for that caliber.If the land wouldnt be passed for 22lr then you could try fac air. Hi Billy did try that today but was told min 3 years before fac can be reviewed for open think im just going to keep finding land and bug them till they get fed up and open it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiceychilli57 Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Hi artscholl thats ok,22lr rounds do tend to bounce off everything so shooting a 22lr around hourses is prob not a good idea.You dont need to prove theres rabbit problems to get land cleared as all the feo does is check the land on google maps or visit the ground to see if its safe for that caliber.If the land wouldnt be passed for 22lr then you could try fac air. Hi Billy did try that today but was told min 3 years before fac can be reviewed for open think im just going to keep finding land and bug them till they get fed up and open it artscholl, fac air proably a better bet much more likely to get that unlucky silverhawk i was lucky when my first fac cert came through it was already open friendly feo though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Hi Billy did try that today but was told min 3 years before fac can be reviewed for open think im just going to keep finding land and bug them till they get fed up and open it Ouch... Personally, I'd write a letter into the FLD. I lost my original letter, but I simply made reference to several requests from farmers who called me to sort out foxes, but couldn't as the land wasn't cleared. That letter was sent with a couple of personal references and it worked a charm. Do keep in mind that I had my licence for about 6 months so it can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted January 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Even my fac shottie is closed for vermin but hopefully if my mentors happy with me to go solo with my 223 soon i will send my ticket back and at same time ask to get that removed and open as theres no extra range with a fac shotgun just extra rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Hi artscholl thats ok,22lr rounds do tend to bounce off everything so shooting a 22lr around hourses is prob not a good idea.You dont need to prove theres rabbit problems to get land cleared as all the feo does is check the land on google maps or visit the ground to see if its safe for that caliber.If the land wouldnt be passed for 22lr then you could try fac air. Hi Billy did try that today but was told min 3 years before fac can be reviewed for open think im just going to keep finding land and bug them till they get fed up and open it Cheers silverhawk. there is no chance of me shooting anything near her animals!! way too risky. will be lamping or waiting till they are stabled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted January 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) Artschool it should be fine then as ive even heard of 20acres being cleared for 22lr.I once came across 200acres that was cleared up to 243 and that had a motorway near by and a train line and members of public roaming the fields. Edited January 21, 2011 by silverhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Even my fac shottie is closed for vermin but hopefully if my mentors happy with me to go solo with my 223 soon i will send my ticket back and at same time ask to get that removed and open as theres no extra range with a fac shotgun just extra rounds. I don't know if this helps but the HO guidance advises FLO's to always automatically grant Sec 1 shotguns as open from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted January 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 I don't know if this helps but the HO guidance advises FLO's to always automatically grant Sec 1 shotguns as open from the start. Thanks colster i will look in to that and add it to my letter when i send my ticket in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEAD SHOT NO1 Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Although there happy to let you have FAC on there most FEO's wont grant your app to shoot on golf courses ive noticed at my end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 EH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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