black lab Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 lost my black lab on the 21 august and i already have 2 year old cockador my son now started shooting so need another dog not sure which to get a cocker or another black lab cant make up my mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuffolkShot Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Personally, I'd go for a cocker. I think they make a more versatile beast - perfect for beating and/or picking up whilst my experience of a large proportion of labs is that they're a tad shy of going through the rough stuff. Much more character in a spaniel too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 The tasks of these dogs is so different you should let the type of shooting take presidence. The lab is a retriever the cocker a hunter, Can't see a cocker retrieving a large Goose from a fast flow and equally daft is the throught of a Lab stuck fast in the middle of a an overgrown hedge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintime Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 The tasks of these dogs is so different you should let the type of shooting take presidence. The lab is a retriever the cocker a hunter, Can't see a cocker retrieving a large Goose from a fast flow and equally daft is the throught of a Lab stuck fast in the middle of a an overgrown hedge I wish someone would tell my 5yearold lab this lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Burpster Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 All the Springadors I have seen have been so loyal and switched on that I am aiming to get one as soon as my *** settles in one place - (later this year maybe!) Good compromise between the two breeds and as its a first cross they rarely have any of the genetic problems of the two breeds. Its a big choice getting a dog, make sure before you do it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 The tasks of these dogs is so different you should let the type of shooting take presidence. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffryn Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 lost my black lab on the 21 august and i already have 2 year old cockador my son now started shooting so need another dog not sure which to get a cocker or another black lab cant make up my mind Had the same decision to make myself last month and ended up with a black lab. The type of shooting you do has a major bearing on your decision but so can the individual dog within a breed. Luckily I found a small Lab dog that had a great nose and loved getting into the thick of it (once he has a scent). So in summary I would say :- 1. Cocker for rough shooting (hunting) 2. Lab for outright rertrieivng work though you may be lucky and get one that will hunt once it picks a sent up but they will never hunt anywhere near as well as a cocker or an ESS. My dog had to live in the house and would be a pet as well. This was the final factor that swung the Lab for me. Hope this helps ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 ESS....The Maid of all work... A well trained dog is the most versatile dog available in the field, Hunts like a Bloodhound, Points like a Pointer, Flushes like a toilet, retreaves like a retriever, swims like an otter. And will do so all day well into its later life if properly looked after. Also very adaptable in the home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 ESS....The Maid of all work... A well trained dog is the most versatile dog available in the field, Hunts like a Bloodhound, Points like a Pointer, Flushes like a toilet, retreaves like a retriever, swims like an otter. And will do so all day well into its later life if properly looked after. Also very adaptable in the home. Have you ever seen a pointer or bloodhound at work? many dogs are versitile but non can match the specialists at thier vocation, though i assume you were just flowering things up a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Have you ever seen a pointer or bloodhound at work? many dogs are versitile but non can match the specialists at thier vocation, though i assume you were just flowering things up a bit Yep all working Springers will point if trained and I had a English Pointer in 78. They also have a nose as good as a bloodhound. You dont see any Bloodhounds in the Airport serching for drugs and explosives Yep was flowering it up a bit but the text is basically taken from a 1940,s book of the ESS along with the following. "It is prized by hunters because it can take on many different hunting roles. A keen and active creature with a good nose, it works well both on land and water, as well as in any weather". "It excels at hunting in the thickest cover of the woods and underbrush, and is vigorous and intelligent in its search for prey, and has a nose unmatched by many hound. Moreover, this spaniel marks and points well and is a superb retriever on land and in water. It is ideal for the lone hunter and a great companion." Labs and Rets are ok if you are going a bit Blind or want something to fetch the slippers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecooper1 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Exactly Depends on the shooting that you want it for, Im an all rounder so a springer spaniel suits my needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 labs are born half trained most other breeds die half trained mikee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black lab Posted February 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 i have now been out and bought a cocker thanks for all comments read and took on board i will try and post a pitchure on tonight do i put on dogs and training or the pitchure section again many thanks for comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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