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Boy has this debate gone rouind the houses. Do not own a shotty at the moment as going through some physical (injury) issues at the minute. Have shot Winchester, Beretta and Browning. Just mounted Betinsolli. Hated Betinsolli - totally out of balance. The others were much of a muchness in terms of results shot well with all three. The Beretta SP was lovely from a balance/fit point of view - barrel selector/auto safe was a pain to operate. can see all sides though, but then I am a Gamo shooter in HW & Air Arms land.

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Hi everyone, just to add my two penneth here !!

 

I love Browning/Miroku - for me they are the best combination of value and performance you can buy. I have never owned an Italian o/u but I am currently shooting a Fabarm XL5 semi auto which I bought cos it was £300 or more cheaper than the default Benelli/Beretta semi autos and I have been very pleasantly surprised by the quality of the gun. It is not flimsy in any way & if I was going to keep it, I reckon it would last a very long time and not give any problems.

I am not a chartered mechanical engineer, nor do I have a garden workshop with £20k worth of tools/machine tools in it but I do have an appreciation for nice expensive things which are nicely made and make you feel good simply by picking them up (i.e nice mechanical watches) and I can say without doubt that the only shotgun that I aspire to own is Perazzi.

I would even consider breaking the bank to buy one (if I could hide the bank statements from the missus ??). Despite the excellence of Browning/Miroku, I have to say that compared to the "feel" of Perazzi they are a distant second choice. When I first handled a Perazzi MX8 pro-trap I was smitten. The quality was mesmerising, the machining of the action and work lavished on the barrels is simply superb. How can anyone describe work such as this as flimsy !!. The level of quality is reflected in the performance of the guns in international competitions, and by the fact that many normal blokes are prepared to scrimp and save simply to own one.

 

"feel" = the sensation that you have bought well, and have no regrets about parting with the cash. Pride of ownership confident that you have bought the very best you can afford.

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It is certainly true that if one is used to handling big chunky guns like Mirokus then should you then immediately shoot an earlier silver pigeon (field variety) then yes, it is going to feel very different (slimmer, lighter, more kick etc), but flimsy? No. I don't think I would describe Berettas as that.

 

Compare a cavalry sabre to rapier, both do the same job (in the end) but....

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It is certainly true that if one is used to handling big chunky guns like Mirokus then should you then immediately shoot an earlier silver pigeon (field variety) then yes, it is going to feel very different (slimmer, lighter, more kick etc), but flimsy? No. I don't think I would describe Berettas as that.

 

Compare a cavalry sabre to rapier, both do the same job (in the end) but....

 

Would it be thoroughly facecious to point out that the Rapier was another ugly flawed product from italy ?

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