camokid Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 i got fox on hmr (coventry) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 im in notts and my feo says no to fox with hmr and id need a center fire for fox See how bizarre it is, I spoke to Notts firearms dept about 3 weeks ago and they were happy with hmr for fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy1 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Here in Kent my FEO will allow .22wmr for fox,but not .17hmr,my friend who always shoots with me has just got his first FAC and is allowed .22c/f for fox. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5shooter Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I live in Northern Ireland. I used to have 22lr approved for fox no problem. I think they just want us over here to have as little guns as possible. They dont seem to care about animal welfare. Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Herts is a yes for any rimfire thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaseone Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Not Surrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Herts is a yes for any rimfire thankfully. Really? I asked my FEO minimum for Fox and he said they will only grant it on a .243 minimum!!! Who is your firearms officer Nick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Really? I asked my FEO minimum for Fox and he said they will only grant it on a .243 minimum!!! Who is your firearms officer Nick? Whoa...really? Thats ridiculus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Really? I asked my FEO minimum for Fox and he said they will only grant it on a .243 minimum!!! Who is your firearms officer Nick? Tell him to check with the department manager as that is ludicrous, check he knows that foxes are small and ginger and he hasn't mixed them up with cloven hoofed animals with Antlers. I had pests and fox on my HMR for years with Herts and recently they just include them as pests. I find not asking the best way forward as it begs a FEO to make his own rules up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Whoa...really? Thats ridiculus. This is direct from the horses mouth (well, his email actually); We do not approve any rimfire for foxes. I am aware that some people use them if the fox is close enough but until, and if, it becomes an issue I will not go down that road. Usual calibres approved for fox are .243; .22-250; .223 or .204 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Well, to be honest thats the same as my force apart from they allow .17c/f. .204 looks to be their minimum not .243. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Well, to be honest thats the same as my force apart from they allow .17c/f. .204 looks to be their minimum not .243. So it is, I responded initially from memory then dug out the email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 i used to have Greg, now have Richard as my FLO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 i used to have Greg, now have Richard as my FLO. I have Bob. I need a variation soon so will bring it up then. On a side, there is a typo in section 9 : zeoring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 damn - i'd better stick to zeoring then, and not zeroing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Interesting they added point 9 NB as thats pretty well not needed, I've not got that just the first bit that lists the lot. Bob added vermin including fox onto a mate of mines HMR and indeed conditioned mine for pest control and fox before my last renewal. Then dropped the fox and I just have pest control now, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnum Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 NORTH WALES YES FOR HMR &22LR FOR FOXES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 i used to have Greg, now have Richard as my FLO. Interesting wording on your FAC Nick, here in Northants they allow both 17HMR and 22LR for fox although i asked for the 22LR condition removed. My FAC has both conditions 5&6 the same as yours but then has each individual calibre condition listed as to its use, what may be shot and where. It then has the 22-250 listed again with a seperate condition regarding shooting muntjac and CWD. Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 it's an "open" ticket, hence why it doesn't list land. i think point 9 is just and old carry over from my old ticket as it's covered by points 5 and 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 See how bizarre it is, I spoke to Notts firearms dept about 3 weeks ago and they were happy with hmr for fox. diferent rules diferent fao or is it diferent rules diferent people?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 it's an "open" ticket, hence why it doesn't list land. i think point 9 is just and old carry over from my old ticket as it's covered by points 5 and 7. Nick, i have an open ticket and it does not list land, land never gets listed on an FAC. What i mean is that i have this for each calibre; "The 17HMR Rifle, sound moderator and ammunition shall be used for shooting fox, vermin and ground game and for zeroing on ranges or land over which the holder has lawful authority to shoot The 22-250 Rifle, sound moderator and ammunition...........and so on. I then have another condition for the 22-250 regarding the shooting of Muntjac and CWD I also have a seperate target shooting condition for all my rifles. Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Also do bear in mind folks that there will be some discrepancy anyway, and there should be. Remember the law and the guidance state that each case should be looked at on individual merit. Therefore if an FEO sees one bloke who shoots foxes, for example at a stable, and one who shoots them across 1000 acres of open country, if the open country chap wants a rimfire, it's perfectly fair to say NO and get a bigger gun. If the other chap wants a rimfire with moderator, then his circumstance warrants a grant for fox with .22LR. I know most of the time they have a policy (wrong) but sometimes they do it right, sometimes... Anyway, Northants, and I have the lovely 'any other legal quarry' on mine, so when the chance presents itself I can shoot Charlie with the .22LR. All my other rifles have fox specifically as well, but seems a little daft with the "any other" wording. but there you go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 ah ok Ian i understand what you meant now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 ah ok Ian i understand what you meant now. Nick, this thread just goes to show the rediculously different interpretations of the guidelines and firearms licensing offices adding their own twist. They then want to raise our fees by 400% :o Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 it really is a bit of a lottery when i comes to what peoples licenses say! i agree each license is unique to the holder, but the actual implementation should be consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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