game_keeper Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Hi there all! sorry bout the lame joke, HAD to be done! Well as you have probably guessed this is a question about ..... yes you've guessed it .... chokes. My winchester super grade has 28" barrels and chokes of Cylinder and 1/4. What is a cylinder choke most useful for? ie quarry wise, rabbit, pigeon, fox. Any help appreciated. Many thanks, Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 (edited) Cylinder is good for Skeet at you local Clay club :thumbs: Cylinder is a general close range choke for small game like Pigeons and Rabbits i would say Personally i prefer to use either 1/2 and 3/4 or 3/4 and full in mine For Fox i would DEF use a FULL choke and concentrate as much of the shot pattern into as small a group as possible to make sure of a humane dispatch. LG Edited March 29, 2006 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo_05 Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 With larger shot for fox you will get a better pattern with 1/2 as full deforms many of the few large pellets. Try it on a pattern plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 As a shot gun newbie I just don't get the whole choke thing - not that it would probably make any difference for me anyway. What's the consensus for clays - just leave the gun alone and don't worry about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo_05 Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 put in a 1/4 + 1/2 and don't think about it further! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Will do. I am guessing that 1/2 goes in the barrel that fires first and 1/4 in the barrel that fires second? I really should get a book basic shotgun shooting and maintenance - any suggestions? Cheers all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo_05 Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Well, actually normally the tighter choke goes in the top barrel and the lighter in the bottom. Constrictions go from cylinder,skeet,1/4,1/2,3/4, full, extra full etc. there are also things like a "light half" but these are mostly for persistent fiddlers of chokes. Send me a PM and I'll send you some info on sites etc. Try to get your hands on, Breaking clays by chris batha, good for the beginner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 With larger shot for fox you will get a better pattern with 1/2 as full deforms many of the few large pellets. Try it on a pattern plate. Already tried my full on a pattern board with BB and it seems fine. Then again when i test the Escort choke against the Beretta the beretta is tighter by over 1mm :o They are BOTH full chokes but the Beretta is a damn sight tighter so perhaps a 1/2 in a betetta WOULD be better as it's the origional escorts i tried when i first got the gun and took it to the Club LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo_05 Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Try the half and your pattern will be no worse and have less fliers. 36 grams of BB with 1/2 choke has sufficient pattern AND penetration for a Head+Shoulder fox out to 40 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Hi there all! sorry bout the lame joke, HAD to be done! Well as you have probably guessed this is a question about ..... yes you've guessed it .... chokes. My winchester super grade has 28" barrels and chokes of Cylinder and 1/4. What is a cylinder choke most useful for? ie quarry wise, rabbit, pigeon, fox. Any help appreciated. Many thanks,Rob to save you all the worry try this, put 2 times 1/4 chokes in the gun and forget it for a period of time say a year, shoot your little heart out, obviously taking care not to shoot game out of range, keep inside of say 30/35yds that way you can make sure of the kill, after this time you should have enough experience as to what choke you will need for what distance, take lessons at a club if poss and practice all you can, nothing will beat your own experience . good luck Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacker Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 As a shot gun newbie I just don't get the whole choke thing - not that it would probably make any difference for me anyway. What's the consensus for clays - just leave the gun alone and don't worry about it? If your just starting out, i'd stick cylinder in your first barrel (bottom) & 1/4 in the top. When you get a bit more consistent, then tighten your chokes to say,1/4 & 1/2. Don't get too wrapped up in chokes, you have a lot to think about already without the hassel of thinking, are my chokes too tight. When your on, your on, & the clay will break no matter. Enjoy it & stick with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dog Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 I agree with Wacker - last summer I was decoying crows with cylinder and skeet with good results. I just shot all year with the same chokes. Mungler - Your question on chokes. I will try to answer it P4 style: Amagine someone has grabbed you by the throat, this is called choke . The tighter they squezz the less air you get due to restricting the size of your airway. This is like full choke the barrel is restricted and groups the lead tighter to get through, concentrating more lead on the target. As the hand releases its FULL grip on your throat, your windpipe starts to opens and lets more air in bit by bit - 3/4, 1/2, 1/4, skeet and cylinder. At cylinder you can breath easy, your throat is wind open and the air flows well. In a gun, cylinder let the lead flow well without restriction and the lead spread more, giving you a wider spread of lead but less concentrated. So full = restriction & groups the lead. Cylinder = open and let lead spread. Hope you enjoyed the story I bet you will never have to ask this question again. If in doubt again, just hold your throat - not to tight though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Amagine someone has grabbed you by the throat, this is called choke . The tighter they squezz the less air you get due to restricting the size of your airway. This is like full choke the barrel is restricted and groups the lead tighter to get through, concentrating more lead on the target. As the hand releases its FULL grip on your throat, your windpipe starts to opens and lets more air in bit by bit - 3/4, 1/2, 1/4, skeet and cylinder. At cylinder you can breath easy, your throat is wind open and the air flows well. In a gun, cylinder let the lead flow well without restriction and the lead spread more, giving you a wider spread of lead but less concentrated. So full = restriction & groups the lead. Cylinder = open and let lead spread. and they say the Irish are daft, very impressive Big Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dog Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Thanks Dazza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 36 grams of BB with 1/2 choke has sufficient pattern AND penetration for a Head+Shoulder fox out to 40 yards. Your a better shot than most then Milo LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I agree with Wacker - last summer I was decoying crows with cylinder and skeet with good results. I just shot all year with the same chokes. Mungler - Your question on chokes. I will try to answer it P4 style: Amagine someone has grabbed you by the throat, this is called choke . The tighter they squezz the less air you get due to restricting the size of your airway. This is like full choke the barrel is restricted and groups the lead tighter to get through, concentrating more lead on the target. As the hand releases its FULL grip on your throat, your windpipe starts to opens and lets more air in bit by bit - 3/4, 1/2, 1/4, skeet and cylinder. At cylinder you can breath easy, your throat is wind open and the air flows well. In a gun, cylinder let the lead flow well without restriction and the lead spread more, giving you a wider spread of lead but less concentrated. So full = restriction & groups the lead. Cylinder = open and let lead spread. Hope you enjoyed the story I bet you will never have to ask this question again. If in doubt again, just hold your throat - not to tight though. big dog you've got a way with words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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