Rede2Kite Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Hi , I have recently got into airifle shooting and have permission every Thursday on a land of about 20 acres to cull rabbits , however the rabbits are very nervous and shy and am not able to get near them . The only way l am able to kill the rabbits is to do it by stealth or by going into hiding and waiting for them to come out . I have a .177 Air Arms 400f Hunter with multi shot mag kit and able to get to them around 40 yards accurately . The question is l need advice on whether to get a more powerful and longer shooting airifle .177 or .22 or to go into looking into a rim fire .. I would like to point out that the land is in a valley with a small lane passing through it , houses on the other side of the hill over looking it and a train track with regular trains passing through at the top of the land .. any suggestions please If l do go looking into an airifle fac , how do l go about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 With out knowing the land its hard to say what's suitable. Surely if youre able to get close enough that a sub 12ft/lbs air rifle is adequate thats gotta be cheap way to go. FAC Air can be/is expensive for what it is, but uses air rifle pellets 22lr Rimfire rifle is cheap enough to buy secondhand and 22lr rounds are something like £4 - £5 for 50 Both the above would require a firearms application at a cost £50 and a gun cabinet that meets certain BS standards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfletch Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 You probable would not get permission to shoot a rim-fire or a FAC air rifle on that land Try when its dark with a red filter on a lamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northeastshooter Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 The only way l am able to kill the rabbits is to do it by stealth or by going into hiding and waiting for them to come out welcome to hunting mate u cant simply walk up to a rabbit put the gun to its head ( unless its got mixy) and shoot its all part of it the sneaking into range to get the perfect shoot buy sum ex army camo make sure ur totaly covered hands and face as well, take ur time dnt move to fast with time u'll pick it up and slowly your bag will get bigger ever trip and you'll enjoy it amore as well. good look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 welcome to hunting mate u cant simply walk up to a rabbit put the gun to its head ( unless its got mixy) and shoot its all part of it the sneaking into range to get the perfect shoot buy sum ex army camo make sure ur totaly covered hands and face as well, take ur time dnt move to fast with time u'll pick it up and slowly your bag will get bigger ever trip and you'll enjoy it amore as well. good look What he said ^^. It's your stalking technique that you need to work on to get you closer, not a bigger gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 20 acres is not that big so your .177 s400 is perfect. As you have suggested there are 3 ways of going about it, but as always you will need a mixture of patience and good field-craft. 1. Ambush them by waiting 30 yards away from where they are feeding and wait. On warm sunny evenings you shouldn't have to wait very long (if you are down wind, that is). 2. Stalk them by moving slowly and quietly to where they are likely to be, using as much cover as you can find. Stay down wind and keep your eyes peeled. If you are not spotted beforehand you can often shoot more than 1 before they get spooked. 3. The third alternative is to go at night with a lamp. Use it sparingly and as low as you can get away with and if you know the area well you shouldn't have too many problems with guessing ranges etc. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 To many people say an airgun is no good but as said its their field craft which is rubbish. I've known me shoot 20 a lap of a field smaller than that but belly crawl the lot and it feels great. I've known me crawl and have rabbits pop out less than a yard away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rede2Kite Posted July 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 To many people say an airgun is no good but as said its their field craft which is rubbish. I've known me shoot 20 a lap of a field smaller than that but belly crawl the lot and it feels great. I've known me crawl and have rabbits pop out less than a yard away Likewise , so close that l could have strangled it Thanks for the info and realise that l will stick with the 400f , due to H&S .. I have been doing all the above but getting slightly frustrated seeing lots of rabbits just too far to shoot , it was just an inquiry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 Hi , I have recently got into airifle shooting and have permission every Thursday on a land of about 20 acres to cull rabbits , however the rabbits are very nervous and shy and am not able to get near them . The only way l am able to kill the rabbits is to do it by stealth or by going into hiding and waiting for them to come out . I have a .177 Air Arms 400f Hunter with multi shot mag kit and able to get to them around 40 yards accurately . The question is l need advice on whether to get a more powerful and longer shooting airifle .177 or .22 or to go into looking into a rim fire .. I would like to point out that the land is in a valley with a small lane passing through it , houses on the other side of the hill over looking it and a train track with regular trains passing through at the top of the land .. any suggestions please If l do go looking into an airifle fac , how do l go about it mosly you bags will come waiting downwind for the bunnies to come to you on this sort of ground. 40 yds aint exactly easy shooting with 12ft lb in the field with any sort of wind and less than perfect posisions to shoot from. FAC air is good but go .22 precharged and ALWAYS buy secondhand they cost a mint new and loose a stack of money, windage will be drastically reduced using heavy bis mags and thier like and 50yds is as easy as 30 with your current rig- kills are also better if your shot is slightly off the exact sweet spot now and again. It matters more what shots you take than anything else safety wise. I use FAC air when there is any risk of ricochet damage to stock, property etc. with the .22 rf or when shooting into trees to get reduced fall out ranges and decreased terminal velocities, remember the bullet or pellet must end its flightpath on your land solid backstops are the way to achieve this not just bigger land You will need to contact the firearms licencing dept of your regional police force for the forms to apply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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