grousemoor Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Anyone know what the rules are for taking a shotgun on a train? Obviously in the hard case which is lockable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 insight all the time and maybe a plain bag to avoid alarm and curiosity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney86 Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) Many rail companies state in their terms of travel that they dont want guns or ammo on board. That said, it is not illegal. If they give you permission to, you could, in theory, travel with it just in a slip - but in practice thats not gonna happen. Just make sure it isn't obvious what is in the case (everyone whos ever played a PC game will recognise the name Baretta), perhaps put it in a bag too. A large padlock on it in plain sight will get people looking at you too. Bear in mind also that although the trains are legal, the stations may not be. For example London stations are (were?) covered by some kind of anti-terror blanket laws. I've only done this once, and decided never again. I nearly crapped myself when I had to walk past a bunch of heavily armed police and sniffer dogs :yp: Edited August 6, 2011 by Barney86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 This has cropped up before. Perfectly legal, but It's against some train operators terms and conditions. I'd check with them. If they're OK with it (or even if they're not IMO, it'd be their rules not the law you'd be breaking). Break it down, put it in something that doesn't look like a gun case (sports holdall, small rucksack etc and keep it in sight and you'll be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) I don't really know what the policy is for carrying a shotgun on a train but for what it is worth if it were me I would want to break it down and then carry it in some sort of plain unmarked case so that it was not quite so obvious that it was a gun of any type! However, even though it could easily be a case of "what the eye doesn't see" it might be best to check with the rail company first. Edit: Blunderbuss managed to get his reply in before me - Obviously his fingers work a little quicker than mine! Edited August 6, 2011 by Frenchieboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Would you really want to lose your cert for trying to be deceitful? that`s basically what it comes down to if you`re caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJon Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Would you really want to lose your cert for trying to be deceitful? that`s basically what it comes down to if you`re caught. Over the next 6 months I've already agreed to attend a shoot in Norfolk, 2 in north Yorkshire and 2 in Devon. The shotgun will be split, half in boot and half in room. Both will be fastened down with a lock to either the car chassis or a radiator, permanent fixiing. But what I take to the room will also be in a zipped bag and not easily identified. Is that deceitful? I'll also eat in my room so I'm not away from the gun at any time, save for fetching an odd drink (soft) from the bar. I see it as minimising who knows your carrying a legal object because in the wrong hands it's a dangerous weapon. That makes sense but I can see the other view as well. If I was on public transport? I'd probably borrow a gun when I got there. The exposure time for me I too big, and I tend to fall asleep on trains! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Over the next 6 months I've already agreed to attend a shoot in Norfolk, 2 in north Yorkshire and 2 in Devon. The shotgun will be split, half in boot and half in room. Both will be fastened down with a lock to either the car chassis or a radiator, permanent fixiing. But what I take to the room will also be in a zipped bag and not easily identified. Is that deceitful? I'll also eat in my room so I'm not away from the gun at any time, save for fetching an odd drink (soft) from the bar. I see it as minimising who knows your carrying a legal object because in the wrong hands it's a dangerous weapon. That makes sense but I can see the other view as well. If I was on public transport? I'd probably borrow a gun when I got there. The exposure time for me I too big, and I tend to fall asleep on trains! The original question was taking a gun on a train, which i replied to? not sure where you are coming from? If a train company states no shotguns etc to be carried on their trains and you get caught transporting one then they will prosecute you you breaching their conditions which will most certainly result in your FEO wanting to have a chat with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJon Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 The original question was taking a gun on a train, which i replied to? not sure where you are coming from? If a train company states no shotguns etc to be carried on their trains and you get caught transporting one then they will prosecute you you breaching their conditions which will most certainly result in your FEO wanting to have a chat with you. Some hotels state the same? No weapons inside. Not sure where I'm coming from - I think my overall message was similar to yours - I wouldn't do it. The risk and exposure is too great - hence why the train company has rules? The time and effort I put in when travelling was supposed to be an example of minimising the risk - apologies if I came across badly. Still not awake - I blame it being a weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 If a train company states no shotguns etc to be carried on their trains and you get caught transporting one then they will prosecute you you breaching their conditions which will most certainly result in your FEO wanting to have a chat with you. Absolute tosh! They can only prosecute you if you break the law, not their rules. At worst they can make you get off at the next station and forfeit your ticket. Is it legal to take a firearm on a train - yes if you have good reason. Attending a shoot is such a good reason. Disguise it, say nothing and crack on. If you really want to attract attention to yourself put it in a back pack, refuse to remove said back pack. Look very nervous and twitchy, especially around the police. If you want wear a turban............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 If you really want to attract attention to yourself put it in a back pack, refuse to remove said back pack. Look very nervous and twitchy, especially around the police. If you want wear a turban............... :lol: I like it! Just take reasonable precautions, gun broken, trigger lock or similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Its perfectly legal. I've spoken to a few other SGC holders about taking it on the bus. They said check with the bus company, then if they say its okay, just take it in its slip. That way the driver will not be suspicious of a large black hold all carried by a nervous looking teenager! So long as you have a good reason (going to a shoot) and carry your liecence (Just in case) all is well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grousemoor Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Thanks for the advice, it seems it is ok, but the bottom line is....keep a close eye on the package/bag/gun case because if you do lose the gun you are in the ****! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 If you plan on doing it regularly get a chamberlock or Napier protector secure slip ( I have one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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