northeastshooter Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 ok just picked up another permission yesterday a horse farm cover in rabbits im going for my sgc hopefuly this year or next but the trouble is my two biggest farms that id want to use shotguns and fac i dnt think would pass one is in a L shape were the l runs along side a main road within 25+ yards of the edge i never shoot towards the road as the rabbits come from the direction so i shoot parell with the road and the _ has a public footpath along it. naw the new farm has a old railway line going through the middle of it use weekends only old steam trains not a main line and apublic foot path the train runs below the level of the feild in a ditch basicly would these be a problem for my sgc and fac the farms are 2000arce's and 4000acres aprox thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Shotgun - no problem, land doesn't need to be cleared. FAC, depends. Might allow you a 17HMR as ricochet much less likely (although I've had a handful wizz off). It done on a case by case basis and if possible try to be there and put your case (with safety in mind, safe shots) across. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Sounds very similar ro some land over which we shoot;borders a main road and dual carriageway less than 200 yds away on one side;railway running through the middle and various public footpaths,and that section is only 350 acres>So I can't see your land being a problem. Wouldn't be keen to loose off a shotgun anywhere around horses though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) It's more about safe back stops than actual area (this is why ranges have earth banks at the end), if there is a safe back stop (mound of earth) you might well be ok for .22lr (shooting into ground) shotgun you should allow 300m fallout from shot when shooting into the air but it is as the SGC holders discretion if the shot is safe or not. EDIT (i thought .17HMR was more of an issue than .22lr due to its longer/flatter trajectory or is it riccochet they consider more of an issue?) Edited September 2, 2011 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northeastshooter Posted September 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 the horse farm i wouldnt use ashotgun possible a modded 410 but the other farm is a sheep farm were the rotate the sheep its 3 feilds so would shoot shotguns un modded in the 2 that arnt been used or in lambin season the 1 theres safe back stopps as both farms are on a hill the one with the sheep were most of the rabbits are it goes you 75-100ft were the barns are and the horse farm is on a hill side down to a river Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 There is no land in the UK that is safe for firearms. Each shot has to be assesed by the user, FEO,s are keen on HMR but it can and does have issues with ricochets at times. You don't currently need good reason or land for a shotgun but the question will be asked "for what? and were?" it comes under assesing the applicant. The cops used to meet the applicant on his land and assess his knoledge and level of responsibility by asking were do you think is safe? and would you take a shot here?, these days many FEO's to put it bluntly aint got a clue and rely on a tick list for assesing land, in todays case you take pot luck i have seen some stupid desisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 6000 acres ,you should be able to get it cleared for 28 pound anti tank . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) I have the M45 run through the middle of one of my permissions both on embankmant and in a cutting and one side is bordered by the A5. When my ticket was closed my FEO came out with me have to a look at the land and said that my 22.250 will be okay, you are not stupid enough to shoot over the motorway and the embankmant makes a great backstop. The rest of the land had a slight rise to the A5 on the other side of the property but he said that was okay as well. That was only 195 acres, farms of 2000 and 4000 acres should not hold any clearance problems for most centrefire calibres, what might cause you problems is that it is very likely your licensing office will impose a mentoring condition on your FAC. Ian. Edited September 2, 2011 by Vermincinerator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) ok just picked up another permission yesterday a horse farm cover in rabbits im going for my sgc hopefuly this year or next but the trouble is my two biggest farms that id want to use shotguns and fac i dnt think would pass one is in a L shape were the l runs along side a main road within 25+ yards of the edge i never shoot towards the road as the rabbits come from the direction so i shoot parell with the road and the _ has a public footpath along it. naw the new farm has a old railway line going through the middle of it use weekends only old steam trains not a main line and apublic foot path the train runs below the level of the feild in a ditch basicly would these be a problem for my sgc and fac the farms are 2000arce's and 4000acres aprox thanks If you are correct on the size of your land I would guarentee you that they are or would be cleared for rf at least most probably cf. One of my farms that I shoot is 2000 acres and it has never been cleared (properly) as soon as my flo looked on google earth at the size and location he automatically cleared it for my largest calibre at the time which was 308. If you are only after rabbits then you should definately be ok. A 4000 acre farm 6 1/4 square miles is some size round here never even seen one that size good luck with your fac. Edited September 2, 2011 by Luckyshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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