paddypower999 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Hello,, My mum has just bred her liver and white springer to a liver and white dog could this mating give black and white pups?? Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_commoner Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 in short, yes its possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 yes we bred our black cocker with another black cocker and got a goldy coloured one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barraboy Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 its all to do with that recessive gene malarkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) Yes if both parents are heterozygous for the black gene Edited September 7, 2011 by adam_r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larp Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 yes we bred our black cocker with another black cocker and got a goldy coloured one you will get any colour with cockers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziplex Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 When we bought one of springers years ago, the dam was liver/white and the sire black/white...all the liver/white pups were dogs and all the black/white pups were bitches, iirc there were 5 of each ...what's the chances of that happening again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 As said yes, an L&W spaniel I have here came from a B&W x B&W mating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiLisCer Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 In 30 years of breeding I have never seen a BW Pup from two LW parents! Plenty of LW from BW parents though Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 In 30 years of breeding I have never seen a BW Pup from two LW parents! Plenty of LW from BW parents though Mike How does that work then? just odds or is there some science behind it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiLisCer Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 How does that work then? just odds or is there some science behind it? It is the science - LW to LW cannot produce black. (Some claim to have produced black - but DNA proves otherwise) Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 It is the science - LW to LW cannot produce black. (Some claim to have produced black - but DNA proves otherwise) Mike You live and learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 So one gene must be co-dom ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiLisCer Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 No - it is the same in Labs - yellow to yellow will only produce yellow - black to black can produce all three colours, depending on what the parents carry. The B locus is responsible for the presence of brown, chocolate, or liver animals. It is also responsible for nose color. The gene associated with this locus is known as TYRP1. In breeds where the A locus does not come into play, any animal that has at least one B allele (and is not "ee"), will be black in pigmented coat. Those dogs, which have two copies of any of several b alleles will be brown. There are at least three such b alleles. Regardless of other loci, any animal with at least one B allele will have a black nose and pads, while those with any two b alleles will have a liver nose and pads. Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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