Simon Roberts Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Im very keen on the idea of going for my FAC, what will i need in order to do this? i want to put in for my SGC at the same time too (I currently shoot my Lanber on Marcs ticket at various clay grounds). I really fancy a CZ Varmint .17HMR for pest control and a spot of target shooting at the local club. Thanks Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Just apply for a co-terminous certificate which works out cheaper in the long run. All you need is no criminal record, somewhere to shoot the rifle a couple of referees and thats it. I believe with a co-terminous they don't even need to be people of any particular standing in the community or they didn't on mine as the Firearms referees were deemed ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Roberts Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Just apply for a co-terminous certificate which works out cheaper in the long run. All you need is no criminal record, somewhere to shoot the rifle a couple of referees and thats it. I believe with a co-terminous they don't even need to be people of any particular standing in the community or they didn't on mine as the Firearms referees were deemed ok. Excellent thanks for that. Only thing that concerns me is 10 years ago after drinking cider i got arrested for kicking a phone box (yes i know, but was very young and stupid!) I never got done for it just cautioned at the police station. Other than that driving offences only. Would this hinder me at all? i know for a SGC that this wont matter really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 as long as you put it down I think you should be fine. Its when you omit things they get rather funny!! If its 10 years ago you should be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe312 Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 it all depends on how old you are/ how old you were at the time and the charge given to you. drinking and violet crimes are looked on very badly. the worse they can say is no..... to be honest unless it was something really bad i can't see the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Roberts Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 As i say i was never charged with anything i was given more of a stern talking too and never done anything like it since! Im now nearly 11 years older and own my own house and have a decent career so im prob being paranoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Dont forget a Gun Cabinet as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 The easiest way to go your FAC is to join a target shooting club. The problem with this is nearly every smallbore club will shoot .22LR and there ranges probably won't be certified for .17 Unless you have permission to shoot suitable land you will not be granted an FAC for vermin control. My advice would be to join your local club, get your FAC and .22, in the meantime start looking for suitable land and permissions. Once you have your FAC you can apply for a variation and change to conditions quite easily, if not time consuming. Co term FAC and SGC is a good idea, and unless there is a major problem you will get your SGC easily. Hope this helps Cheers Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Roberts Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 The easiest way to go your FAC is to join a target shooting club. The problem with this is nearly every smallbore club will shoot .22LR and there ranges probably won't be certified for .17 Unless you have permission to shoot suitable land you will not be granted an FAC for vermin control. My advice would be to join your local club, get your FAC and .22, in the meantime start looking for suitable land and permissions. Once you have your FAC you can apply for a variation and change to conditions quite easily, if not time consuming. Co term FAC and SGC is a good idea, and unless there is a major problem you will get your SGC easily. Hope this helps Cheers Martin Excellent advice thanks very much. Im pretty sure my local club is cleared for .17HMR Thanks Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Roberts Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Bear in mind that officially a 17HMR cannot be used for "Target" shooting as all available ammunition is expanding, and can therefore only be used on a range in conjuction with "Zeroing" or practice.. You wont get it granted unless you have land for it. Right! ok well i will hopefully have land sorted very soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Regarding your old record, tell them everything. Under the rehabilitation of offenders act, your caution for the phone box incident would be deemed as "spent" (which means that under normal circumstances you don't have to disclose it). However, there are certain situations and circumstances where you have to "tell all". SGC and Firearms applications are one of those tell all situations. So too is working with kids and vulnerable people - incase you were convicted of being a nonse 10 years ago etc. Mind you, any term of porridge for more than 3 years and you can't have a SGC or Firearms cert for life. Found this: Determining "fitness" The Chief Officer of Police must, when assessing an application for, or revocation of, a Firearm Certificate, consider the following factors: Prohibited persons and others known, or suspected, of criminal involvement The matter of prohibited persons is explained elsewhere. Consideration must also be given to any previous convictions or cautions held by applicants and, in particular, any convictions which involve the use of a firearm and offences involving violence, or offences involving dishonesty or a disregard for public safety, or cautions held by such persons for offences such as failure to comply with conditions on a Firearm Certificate. Information contained in criminal intelligence will be assessed paying particular regard to alleged or known involvement in criminal offences, particularly those involving the use of violence or threat of violence, or firearms, or evidence of associations with known criminals. Intemperate habits Evidence of alcohol or drug abuse may indicate that a person is unfitted to possess a firearm due to the possible impairment of judgement and loss of self control. Evidence of aggressive or antisocial behaviour which may include domestic disputes or evidence of hostility likely to lead to violent acts against particular groups categorised by, for example, race, gender, sexual orientation, religion or class. Evidence of disturbing and unusual behaviour of a kind which gives rise to well founded fears about the future misuse of firearms. A pattern of abuse will generally be regarded more seriously than a single incident, although "one-offs" will not be disregarded in building up an overall picture of the person concerned and their fitness to possess firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 So poaching and assault are off the cards then. after drinking cider i got arrested for kicking a phone box Cider will do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Roberts Posted May 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 So poaching and assault are off the cards then. after drinking cider i got arrested for kicking a phone box Cider will do that. I believe it was "Special Red" i tell you theres NOTHING special about it at all! and the only Red is the claret that flows from your nose when your mate has punched you for "looking at his bird" when he didnt even have one....hehe (That was all said in jest and did not happen!! ) haha... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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