nabbers Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I love it when I get my hands on some high brass hulls. I know there is no difference between them and the short brass. Q1) Is that stuff actual brass? Assume it's brassed tin? Anyway, loaded some clear Lymans today and they didn't float my boat, switched to some 67.5 black Hull cartridges but they didn't do it for me either. Then I did some Eley fibre wad hulls in black and the primers seemed slightly loose. Couldn't get excited about the fruits of my labour! Q2) Why do some once fired hulls open up like a star/flower, and other in cylinder with no sign of original crimp and some look mishaped or actually split? Q3) So what are your most exciting find when you are looking for once fired hulls, say at the clay ground? Q4) If I buy new cases, should i get paper or plastic, any recommendations on make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I look for Hull Pro Ones for general reloading and RC2's for field loads because they are a nice bright blue colour that's easy to find when my auto spits them out, and they crimp well too. I use Eley CT's for reloading 20gauge because they are one of the few cases that don't split the crimps on the first firing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) I love it when I get my hands on some high brass hulls. I know there is no difference between them and the short brass. Q1) Is that stuff actual brass? Assume it's brassed tin? Anyway, loaded some clear Lymans today and they didn't float my boat, switched to some 67.5 black Hull cartridges but they didn't do it for me either. Then I did some Eley fibre wad hulls in black and the primers seemed slightly loose. Couldn't get excited about the fruits of my labour! Q2) Why do some once fired hulls open up like a star/flower, and other in cylinder with no sign of original crimp and some look mishaped or actually split? Q3) So what are your most exciting find when you are looking for once fired hulls, say at the clay ground? Q4) If I buy new cases, should i get paper or plastic, any recommendations on make? It's 'brassed' steel. These have Maxam U.E.E. G600 primers that are 'fatter'. Plastic wadded. Fibre-wadded They could cost you more than loaded cartridges! Edited October 16, 2011 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 When I was home loading I would always try and find Winchester Trap 100/200 or AA cases as the were compression formed which used slightly less powder per load and would crimp down far better than many other cases I tried. You could use most of them more than once too. Not sure where you would find P/T now ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I love it when I get my hands on some high brass hulls. I know there is no difference between them and the short brass. Q1) Is that stuff actual brass? Assume it's brassed tin? Anyway, loaded some clear Lymans today and they didn't float my boat, switched to some 67.5 black Hull cartridges but they didn't do it for me either. Then I did some Eley fibre wad hulls in black and the primers seemed slightly loose. Couldn't get excited about the fruits of my labour! Q2) Why do some once fired hulls open up like a star/flower, and other in cylinder with no sign of original crimp and some look mishaped or actually split? Q3) So what are your most exciting find when you are looking for once fired hulls, say at the clay ground? Q4) If I buy new cases, should i get paper or plastic, any recommendations on make? steel heads. some hulls have slightly thicker hulls, the thinnest hulls i`ve ever seen were lyvale hv hulls, they were very thin. hardly worth reloading, as the thinness affects the re-crimp. most higher priced hulls are slightly thicker, the gordon type is the thickest i`ve seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Interesting. Some more pennies drop! This mirrors my experiences. Gave up on Lyvale clear hulls although I have hundreds, too thin, split easily. I googled Gordon hulls http://bandpusa.com/about-us and see straight away that the few I reloaded were so thick that the open end showed no memory of a crimp, because they are thick! I like reloading Eley VIPs the best, no problems with lose primers on the batch I did last in bright red with 16mm brass! Shame to fire them, they're an art form! As a nipper I used to wander around the Grouse Butts on Ilkley Moor picking up the empties which laid around for days after the shoots and how I wish I had hung onto all those Eley Grand Prix waxed paper cases! as it is, I just kept one, a live round which some loader must have dropped and forgotten to pick up in the heat of the action, quite an exciting find for a 7 year old and it sits in the ammo safe still unfired! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Shaw Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 I think Gordon low base are nice to load and victory high base, they will both crimp well and can be used several times,Long brass cases are ok, look good but are hard to get out off the size die on a single stage M.E.C. The gordon's take a bit of pulling off to. Mick. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbear Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 If you get a chance try the all plastic Hi Tech cases - they last well, reload easily and feed well. We used to keep our empties and beg or borrow from others and they were perfect for duck and goose loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) I treasure what I have left of these, true brass-head compression-formed 'AA' once-fired empties. 1970s era, copper primers, waterproof! Edited November 23, 2011 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 Floating Chamber...These are the dogs danglies for reloading :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 yep those and the remmington ones from the same era were definatley the dogs doodles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk6052 Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 I have found Gamebore's White Gold good for reloading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Game bore Black Gold are my favorite for reloading, the brass is long enough to get inside the crimp tube on my mec machines before too much pressure is applied, it reduces the risk of bulging the case which sometimes happens with short brass cases. mikee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humberducker Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 I like hull pro ones. Thier intercomp is also good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted November 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Game bore Black Gold are my favorite for reloading, the brass is long enough to get inside the crimp tube on my mec machines before too much pressure is applied, it reduces the risk of bulging the case which sometimes happens with short brass cases. mikee I just reloaded 300 Black Gold and shot some off yesterday. I resized them as part of the loading process, but found them a little tight to chamber. they reload very well though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 are you useing the resize die on the press?, if so they are generally not very good unless its the super sizer type, I have a super sizer mounted on my bench so I remove the collar type die from the machine mikee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I just reloaded 300 Black Gold and shot some off yesterday. I resized them as part of the loading process, but found them a little tight to chamber. they reload very well though! You need a Supersizer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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