mad1 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 hi all I am prepping my o/u for blueing but I have got the chokes stuck in I know they were not cross threaded when I put them in .. How can I get them out without damaging them They are the extended ones with small flat areas around the ends . Can I buy a key to do it or is there something I soak them in to loosen them ..any one got a key I can lend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmep Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 (edited) couple of sugestions for you. dont think youll find a choke key for them, prety rare now i would have thought. firstly i would try wrapping a piece of rag round the choke and trying a pair of pipe wrenches or mole grips, making sure they dont slip, held very tight to the choke. if that doesnt work i'd try some releasing spray, let it soak then try the molegrips. if that still doesnt work i'd try some local heat, paintstripper gun or butane torch BEARING IN MIND you are going to re blue anyway. I WOULDNT EVEN THINK OF HEATING IT IF YOUR NOT GOING TO RE BLUE. before i get shot down for sugesting it i'd be surprised if the molegrips didnt shift it though. did you have the key to put them in ? i had one of these (assuming its the budget rizzini and not the expensive ones) and the chokes had a rubber o ring round the bottom of them which would have stopped you putting them in too tight, i'm assuming yours doesnt have the o rings still. Edited October 28, 2011 by mickmep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 (edited) Edited October 28, 2011 by yankeedoodlepigeon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 you could try a teague taper key, penetrating oil can help good soaking as can warming the barrels have a search lots of methods and tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 You could also stand the muzzle end of the barrels in diesel so that the internal section of the choke is completely immersed. I'm told the diesel is also a good releasing agent and has worked for a friend who had the same problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad1 Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Thanks for the ideas Yes it has the rubber o rings still in place but they are not tight squashed I think that may have caused them sticking when I have been rubbing the barrels down there must have been some water in there and possibly rusted stuck I will try some release spray first with a rag and grips then try the heat method many thanks m1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Thanks for the ideas Yes it has the rubber o rings still in place but they are not tight squashed I think that may have caused them sticking when I have been rubbing the barrels down there must have been some water in there and possibly rusted stuck I will try some release spray first with a rag and grips then try the heat method many thanks m1 If rusted, maybe try vinegar? I've used it with great success on ceased (rusted) padlocks and other implements. Maybe stand the barrels in a glass of it (so the threads are immersed) overnight and then try the rag and wrench again? I'd use heat as an absolute last resort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 instead of heat try the opposite and but the barrels in the freezer, it worked for my mate who had the same trouble. he couldn't use heat because of the camo coating on the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad1 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Just to update I managed to get them out after soaking them in vinegar and then putting the pipe wrench on Thanks to all who suggested different methods ( I have cleaned and coated the threads in coppa slip now ) ps they are marked as full and improved which one should be on the bottom first barrel reg m1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmep Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 normally more open in bottom barrel, firing bottom barrel first. so personally would have the improved in bottom barrel and full in top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bull Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 you should have just chopped the barrels down to 24" :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad1 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 The thought did cross my mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 IMP cyl or imp mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad1 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) It's marked ic ( 3 upside down y's) :hmm:What's the difference :unsure: Edited October 29, 2011 by mad1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) Imp cyl is 1/4 ish imp mod is 3/4 ish I would say 1/4 and full is too different stick to half and half ish unless your shooting Trap! http://www.ssaa.org.au/stories/shotguns-a-beginners-guide-to-shotgun-chokes.html Good guide near the bottom Edited October 29, 2011 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad1 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Thanks for that I am now looking for some different chokes :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Glad the vinegar worked - it's not failed me yet Always shoot bottom barrel (with the most open choke) first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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