njc110381 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I'm confused! I'm looking at buying a lamp now the nights are drawing in and I can't get my head around the ratings? I have a Clulite Shootalite but wanted to upgrade. Apparently though my Shootalite has a 1m candlepower beam - but then so does the Lightforce 170.... Now, I've lamped with my Clulite and I've lamped with a mates 170 and I know from that experience that the 170 is far far superior. I recon it has a similar range with a red filter as the clulite has without! So how the hell do you tell what's good and what's not? There are a lot of Lightforce copies about (The U-caller, the Deben pro 170 etc) but are they as good? In a perfect world I want a Lightforce 170 variable power scope mounted model, but at £150 it's not cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Think you've already answered the question and just have to bite the bullet! On the other hand, it's nearly Christmas, you could buy the IR filter for the Clulite and then get the Pulsar N550 complete with the doubler and there you go, 200 yards plus. I know the 550 is pricey but you could always convince yourself that you haven't wasted any money by buying the Shootalite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I have the deben sport light. It gets used nearly every night. And now the wiring is suffering. It burns out at the cig plug and has been re-wired twice and is on the way out now. Also make sure you get proper bulbs (£8). Not cheaper ones because Their ****. Oh and I have only had it 6 month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I've looked at an N550 and would love one. I just can't afford it at the moment though. If I do get one it will go on my .223 - now I've found some decent bullets for the Hornet I doubt it will go out much unless I have a reason to pick it up! For now I think I do want the Nightforce but I'm not even sure I can afford that! It's tax bill time soon. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Lightforce dont make a dimmable lamp. they sell lamp to deben who then put dimmers into them, hence the confusion of having a lightforce lamp that dims. u-caller handheld is a copy and the reflector is the same so save money and buy a u-call lamp if you want it hand held. if you want the scope mounted one then you know it stands very high of the scope. the 1mil candle is what the light gives out but its the depth and size of the reflector that give the distance. the 170mm light force says 600 mtr beam but the 240mm, with the same bulb, gives 800 mtr. i bet your clulite is a 100watt bulb as well but as the reflector diameter is only around 100mm it will not through the beam as far. i bought the 170 lightforce and then a dimmer from clulite for £20 and cannibalised the two so they worth together. i can do this for you if need be. ATB Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Only issue with the pulsar is having to wave it about and search for foxes with your scope which we all know isn't good practice. I've 2 lightforces and like you no idea on rating its more down to the effectiveness of the reflector. Lots of copies are out there but to my mind buy the real thing once and they last ages. Both mine are 10 years old at least and yes wiring has been modified and mended but they still work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Only issue with the pulsar is having to wave it about and search for foxes with your scope which we all know isn't good practice. I've 2 lightforces and like you no idea on rating its more down to the effectiveness of the reflector. Lots of copies are out there but to my mind buy the real thing once and they last ages. Both mine are 10 years old at least and yes wiring has been modified and mended but they still work. Nah, waving a rifle about with ANY sight/lamp on it searching for foxes is silly. Hopefully, if you're using a scope mounted lamp (ie, on your own, perhaps), you have a second lamp unless you're using a vehicle's lights. In the case of a NV scope, a NV binocular or similar is the simple answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Indeed so what you're saying is he needs a pulsar and an expensive hand held nv. Personally most rifle mounted lamps are a pain so far better off with a handheld and someone to lamp for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Indeed so what you're saying is he needs a pulsar and an expensive hand held nv. Personally most rifle mounted lamps are a pain so far better off with a handheld and someone to lamp for you. Yep, but I was going to leave that until njc asked if we had any ideas what he should get his wife for Christmas! A lamping partner may work for you northerners, but you put two Devonians together and there's enough chatter to send the fox population into Dorset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 the lightforce scope mount is fine for hand held. once you see your target then it is silent to slip on the scope. with a little playing you can also have a dimmer on it as well that is easy to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 (edited) I wave the rifle around on a sling that holds the rifle horizontal and the right way up. With the bolt open it's not a safety issue, although it can get tiring swinging the whole gun around. Edited November 13, 2011 by njc110381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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