Paddy Galore! Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 just wondering chaps & chappesses, are they made anywhere else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat g Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Yip,they were made elsewhere but whether or not they still are,i could'nt say. I have a hawke 2.5-10x44 Frontier on my Sako Finnfire and it says on the scope "Made in Japan". The optics are crystal clear and i would defy anybody that slagged it off as just being another Hawke scope. They don't make my particular model anymore and i was lucky enough to pick it up as end of line stock for the measly sum of £95 . The other noticeable difference on Japanese Hawkes apart from the quality of the optics is that the name "hawke" on the scope is gold coloured as opposed to the Chinese made ones where the name "hawke" appears in white. Personally i think there is some snobbery when it comes to talking scopes. Yes you do get what you pay for to a certain extent when it comes to glass but sometimes hawke scopes are simply dismissed as being rubbish and this is not always the case ,certainly where the older Japanese models are concerned. Have a look through some of the old Japanese Tasco's,Nikko's etc if you ever get the chance and you will see the difference. ATB, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 All hawkes are made in china, as too are many other brands at a guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 certainly the new ones, but the earlier stuff i guess was something to do with tasco? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat g Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 All hawkes are made in china, as too are many other brands at a guess Well mine certainly aint made in China mate. Says on the tube and also on the box "MADE IN JAPAN" the present range are maybe all made in China but some of the earlier stuff was made in Japan and you can tell the difference if you were to look through one ATB Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I wasn't aware of the early stuff being made in japan, certainly as everyone says all the new stuff is made in china. For the money they represent great value for money. I haven't a bad word to say of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I wasn't aware of the early stuff being made in japan, certainly as everyone says all the new stuff is made in china. For the money they represent great value for money. I haven't a bad word to say of them! i have a hawke frontier 3.5-10x50 and its MADE IN JAPAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 i have a hawke frontier 3.5-10x50 and its MADE IN JAPAN hi telf, when was it made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I know its true of other items I have looked into, that they are assembled in china and QC'd in japan and yet they still put made in japan? Not saying its true of hawke but just because its from china does not mean its of inferior quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat g Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 The earlier Japanese Hawkes were built using Japanese components and carried Japanese glass. They were'nt just Chinese components and assembled in Japan. If you can pick up a Japanese Hawke on the 2nd hand market then you won't go far wrong. They make excellent value for money and have quality lenses. I bought my Frontier just over a year ago but like i said it was old stock but sold as new so i could'nt put an exact date of manufacture on it. At only £95 it was a steal and suits the 22lr perfectly. However one of my shooting buddies has just bought a new Hawke Panorama 3-9x40 to sit on top of his 22lr and he says the clarity is excellent and i have heard some good reports recently about this new range and they are defo made in China ATB, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 The earlier Japanese Hawkes were built using Japanese components and carried Japanese glass. They were'nt just Chinese components and assembled in Japan. If you can pick up a Japanese Hawke on the 2nd hand market then you won't go far wrong. They make excellent value for money and have quality lenses. I bought my Frontier just over a year ago but like i said it was old stock but sold as new so i could'nt put an exact date of manufacture on it. At only £95 it was a steal and suits the 22lr perfectly. However one of my shooting buddies has just bought a new Hawke Panorama 3-9x40 to sit on top of his 22lr and he says the clarity is excellent and i have heard some good reports recently about this new range and they are defo made in China ATB, Pat thanks for the info pat, i'm quite happy with them, the build quality is really good, they don't lose zero, the 3-12x50 endurance had a spell on my 22/250 and was more than adequate, even if they are from china a guy on here got me wondering though, he kept asking if they were chinese copies, why the hell would the chinese want to copy a hawke? I got mine when i used to work in my friends gunshop, both from deben which is the uk distributor, it just struck me as quite bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Some of the range are still made in Japan, personally I havent had much luck with Chinese assembled Hawkes, I had a SR12 on my hmr, great scope as long as I didnt change the mag so just left it on 12 and it was fine. One thing you soon learn about scopes and thats you get what you pay for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat g Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Yep theres some half decent scopes in the Hawke range and your Endurance is one of em . Like i said if you do get the chance to get your hands on one of the Japanese models i would seriously consider it if your funds permit. Obviously they are not up there with the likes of S&B, Swarvo's, Zeiss,Leups etc but they offer some serious glass at a fraction of the cost and offer excellent value for money ATB Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 hi telf, when was it made? not quite sure,cant find any date on it or the box but its got made in japan on the box and the hawke motiff is in gold on the scope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katzenjammer Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 From my experience to date the Hawke Panorama quality and optics are good. I have had many Hawke scopes and no trouble with any of them tbh. You can only speak as you find? I know there are many brands with better optics and higher prices beyond the purse of the majority of plebs. I would not be prepared to spend the money either - yes I am a tightwad Yorkie before my mate Patg says it! I am old enough to remember a time when Japanese goods were synonymous with poor quality but they turned that round. The Chinese will do and are doing the same. This is a competitive world and you have to improve or go under. British goods in the main fall into the "going under" category in the main bar those where enlightened Far Eastern proctices pervade of have been adopted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 just now put them up for auction on ebay, all profit is going to orchid cancer research, we had a little fundraiser for them with the clayshoot earlier in the year, give it a look and bung some bids on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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