Browning_Bai Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Hi folks, I was out yesterday for a bit of rough shooting and I decided to work of 24g steel. after having a few goes at the odd crow I returned to clays. The cartridges wern't particulary liked by the gun, with one ejecting jam.. (Highly unusual for a brand new Maxus!) The jam was followed by a small fireball several shots later that came out of the breech! Rather scarey at the time! The cartridges left a horrible mess, with what appeared to be small goldish squares lining the trigger mech and inner workings?! After two boxes I simply had to stop.. Anybody experience this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) I dont know what caused the issue but why on gods earth are shooting steel clay loads at CROWS? stick some lead in and be done with it! 28g+ of 5 should do the trick and jams in your new auto! Edited December 16, 2011 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Had the same issue with Eley GP steel, as posted on here at the time, like firing a musket, could hardly see for the second barrel because of the smoke and loads of crud in the barrels as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 thats a low pressure issue, unburnt powder mainly. if you had a firing issue to start with you should check your barrels. i think after the first low powder dropped load went off, it coverd the action in unburned powder. subsequent firings either coated with more, and or set off the unburned powder. were the shells cold? i`ve had issues identical but with homeloads. the pressure was way too low. the remedy is to warm your shells before firing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Yeh, if it was cold, this can be a problem. Carts stored in a cold place, then used in a cold environment will always be prone to unburnt powder grains, which ignite in the barrel causing the 'fireball'. As the chap above says, store them at room temperature, not in a cold garage, loft or in the motor overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 if you were loading cartirdges, certainly using a hotter primer or trying to hit the 10,000psi is certainly a good way of having the loads perform best in cold environment. ps, you shoot steel at whatever you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 24g steel at crows.... Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 24g steel at crows.... Why? It's cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Don't see any problem with 24g steel on crows I've used them in the past, and as long as you get the shots on target and aren't silly about range, the bird will drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvbus Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Don't forget steel weighs less than lead so you get more shot weight for weight than lead. High speed 28g steel is a duck load..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Think well have to disagree on that then! Steel 7s, as you say much lighter, about the same as shooting lead 9s...? Granted if your shooting close then fair dos but wouldn't want to shoot past 25 odd yards myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 I shoot pigeons with No.4 32gram steel these days, purely because most of my shot birds are given to the local raptor/wild cat centre. The case is translucent, and most of the cart is full of shot! Looks weird compared to a lead shot cart. Steel number 4 is roughly similar in weight to number 6 lead, or so i've been told. Not quite as good ballistically over a distance, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning_Bai Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Thanks guys, I think the issue lies with the cold storage! To be honest the only reason steel was used was because I was making room for new carts..! still did the deed when called upon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Hi folks, I was out yesterday for a bit of rough shooting and I decided to work of 24g steel. after having a few goes at the odd crow I returned to clays. The cartridges wern't particulary liked by the gun, with one ejecting jam.. (Highly unusual for a brand new Maxus!) The jam was followed by a small fireball several shots later that came out of the breech! Rather scarey at the time! The cartridges left a horrible mess, with what appeared to be small goldish squares lining the trigger mech and inner workings?! After two boxes I simply had to stop.. Anybody experience this? Maxus jamming :lol: never :lol: BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Don't forget steel weighs less than lead so you get more shot weight for weight than lead. High speed 28g steel is a duck load..... unless you are talking inland flight pond and under 30yds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 I shoot pigeons with No.4 32gram steel these days, purely because most of my shot birds are given to the local raptor/wild cat centre. The case is translucent, and most of the cart is full of shot! Looks weird compared to a lead shot cart. Steel number 4 is roughly similar in weight to number 6 lead, or so i've been told. Not quite as good ballistically over a distance, though. Great cart choice IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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