Matt Gould Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 hello just been to my permission this mornning and seen a few woodies feeding currently the wind is blowing towards the place i want to build the hide and the trouble is there is no where else to build on (roads.....) will pigeons still come into a decoy pattern if they are all faced away from the hide but this will also mean the birds will becoming in from behind me.... will this work fingers crssed the wind will change direction in the morn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Hi Matt It's not ideal but nevertheless still possible to decoy this way. If you are using a V or U shape pattern, you need to put the pattern out further than you normally would, this is to give the birds more space to turn into the pattern. If the pattern is too close to the hedge they may not want to drop in from height. I've had the pattern as far out as 60 yards to give the birds enough room to turn in, the idea is you take your shots as they approach the pattern instead of in the kill zone. Your second option is if the birds are approaching mainly from your left or your right, and that is to use an L shaped pattern. Put the furthest decoy out about 45 yards, with the single leg trailing towards the hide. This gives the birds space to approach the kill zone more from the side if that makes sense. These are just a couple of patterns to use with the wind blowing in your face, off course there are others too. Best of luck Cos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAD1927 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Is there any way you can position your hide so the wind is left to right or vice versa if so then you can set your pattern as you normally would Just a thought if not then I agree with both posts already written. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 hello just been to my permission this mornning and seen a few woodies feeding currently the wind is blowing towards the place i want to build the hide and the trouble is there is no where else to build on (roads.....) will pigeons still come into a decoy pattern if they are all faced away from the hide but this will also mean the birds will becoming in from behind me.... will this work fingers crssed the wind will change direction in the morn. Have you looked at beardos petterns in the tips and tricks section?, this will give you a few ideas, and also how you can adapt to the conditions. terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Gould Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Is there any way you can position your hide so the wind is left to right or vice versa if so then you can set your pattern as you normally would Just a thought if not then I agree with both posts already written. Good luck there is no potion of that matey to dangerous Hi Matt It's not ideal but nevertheless still possible to decoy this way. If you are using a V or U shape pattern, you need to put the pattern out further than you normally would, this is to give the birds more space to turn into the pattern. If the pattern is too close to the hedge they may not want to drop in from height. I've had the pattern as far out as 60 yards to give the birds enough room to turn in, the idea is you take your shots as they approach the pattern instead of in the kill zone. Your second option is if the birds are approaching mainly from your left or your right, and that is to use an L shaped pattern. Put the furthest decoy out about 45 yards, with the single leg trailing towards the hide. This gives the birds space to approach the kill zone more from the side if that makes sense. These are just a couple of patterns to use with the wind blowing in your face, off course there are others too. Best of luck Cos L pattern seems a good idea gonna try that i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 there is no potion of that matey to dangerous L pattern seems a good idea gonna try that i think I like using the L pattern, I tend to make the head of the pattern thicker by placing the decoys 2/3 deep, and the trailing leg a little random up to 2 decoys deep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Hi Matt It's not ideal but nevertheless still possible to decoy this way. If you are using a V or U shape pattern, you need to put the pattern out further than you normally would, this is to give the birds more space to turn into the pattern. If the pattern is too close to the hedge they may not want to drop in from height. I've had the pattern as far out as 60 yards to give the birds enough room to turn in, the idea is you take your shots as they approach the pattern instead of in the kill zone. Your second option is if the birds are approaching mainly from your left or your right, and that is to use an L shaped pattern. Put the furthest decoy out about 45 yards, with the single leg trailing towards the hide. This gives the birds space to approach the kill zone more from the side if that makes sense. These are just a couple of patterns to use with the wind blowing in your face, off course there are others too. Best of luck Cos This is good advice, but sometimes you can place the decoys too far out. I had session 3 or 4 years back on rape, where the wind was in my face. I set the decoys about 50 yards out. The pigeons came over the hedge and decoyed straight to them and were going out of range. A quick move of the pattern to 30 yards and they came in just right. A nice bag of 94 resulted. Therefore i would now start with the pattern closer and move it out a bit if the situation demanded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 This is good advice, but sometimes you can place the decoys too far out. I had session 3 or 4 years back on rape, where the wind was in my face. I set the decoys about 50 yards out. The pigeons came over the hedge and decoyed straight to them and were going out of range. A quick move of the pattern to 30 yards and they came in just right. A nice bag of 94 resulted. Therefore i would now start with the pattern closer and move it out a bit if the situation demanded. Agreed, should have explained better myself. As Motty has said, start usual distance out, and if you see the birds coming over but not dropping into your pattern, move it further away. You can do his in stages so that you find the nearest placement of your pattern that works for the pigeons. Cheers Motty!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pboro shot Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 theres a horse pasture i shoot only way to shoot it same as you said seems to be ok but they tend to creep up when im haveing a brew end up with bird on the deck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tignme Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 hide out in the park,wind from behind,shoot birds as normal.at the moment we are shooting over laid barley(not harvested) and 80 % of the time weare out in the park shooting back towards the hedgeline were the birds are coming from. on average we are getting as many birds as at harvest time. 28 7s in steel,skeet chokes out to 30 mtrs ,MEGA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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