Azzurri Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 After having Labs & Golden Retrievers for many years we are possibly considering a Toller. Having done a search online the breed sounds like it would suit us,but any additional info would be appreciated Thanks Azzurri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 we have one mate, 3 years now and shes the brightest dog we have ever had, very easy to train and just wants to please, would highley reccoment one, lovley dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzurri Posted February 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 we have one mate, 3 years now and shes the brightest dog we have ever had, very easy to train and just wants to please, would highley reccoment one, lovley dogs Thanks for that mate,didn't expect a reply so quickly with the breed being fairly rare Pleased you're happy with yours and the only challenge I have now is finding one Thanks again, Azzurri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siberian Tiger Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Did anyone mention their scream ? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzurri Posted February 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Did anyone mention their scream ? Lol Hi,have you dried out yet Yes i've heard it,doesn't bother me too much,Nikki talked to a breeder yesterday who has 5 Tollers and only one of them now does it,so it looks like it could be possible to train that out of them a bit Azzurri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiLisCer Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 we have one mate, 3 years now and shes the brightest dog we have ever had, very easy to train and just wants to please, would highley reccoment one, lovley dogs Easily trained for what, Tomm? - it's my understanding that the first toller's yet to run a field trial across the water. If you've got an update on that I'm all ears. The first one that did trial on this side is below lovely dog and bright to boot, but "just wants to please?" Ha - that's antithetical to any toller I've ever known (and there have been many). Wants to please themselves, maybe. Wouldn't go highly recommending them to anyone as a first gundog either. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Easily trained for what, Tomm? - it's my understanding that the first toller's yet to run a field trial across the water. If you've got an update on that I'm all ears. The first one that did trial on this side is below lovely dog and bright to boot, but "just wants to please?" Ha - that's antithetical to any toller I've ever known (and there have been many). Wants to please themselves, maybe. Wouldn't go highly recommending them to anyone as a first gundog either. MG ours is trained for picking up, will sit in a hide all day pigeon shooting or will quite happily pick up on pheasant shoots and has done so many times, i only have experience of ours as not seen man but like i say ours is very eager to please and was lovley to train unlike some of our other dogs, sprngers and a cocker, i am on the works laptop at the mo but will upload a pic when i get home. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Tomm, waiting eagerly for that snap of your toller. Here's one that I've working with for a while - atypical for the breed as is yours in that he's a pleasure to have around, an energetic worker (especially for rough shooting over) and has the typical toller smarts in spades. He also will be running field trials this year - after having accomplished his AKC "Master Hunter" title (read advanced working tests) - and I expect him to be competitive if his owner can get the drill down for what's required in US trials. Now how 'bout that photo - and also whether or not you've had a yen to run retriever trials with your toller? MG Edited February 13, 2012 by cracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) here is mine posing at shepton mallet gun dog scurry last year, abit harker than other pictures on here, Tom Edited February 18, 2012 by Tomm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzurri Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Well we collected our Toller Puppy from Phillip & Amanda at Fallowfen today,can't recommend/praise them enough,they put a lot of good work into what they do which was evident from the first telephone conversation we had a few months ago right through to collection today I know it's early days but the Pup has been really easy going and attentive with no problems at all,i'm looking forward to spending lots of time with her Azzurri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Good luck and enjoy your dog Phillip is a top bloke and will always find time to help you with training or anything else dog related for that matter. I have three Tollers and seven pups as of 3 days ago so will be quite busy myself for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzurri Posted May 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Good luck and enjoy your dog Phillip is a top bloke and will always find time to help you with training or anything else dog related for that matter. I have three Tollers and seven pups as of 3 days ago so will be quite busy myself for a while Thanks David,i'm sure we will,we've spent most of the day outside today getting used to things and gaining confidence,me that is-not the pup :lol: Good luck with the Magnificent 7 and enjoy :good: Azzurri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actionpigeons Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 They look like a cocker x collie to me. Not into all these new breeds. A good lab will do every thing you ask and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Not into all these new breeds. Do your homework, the breed has been around a lot longer than you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actionpigeons Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) Do your homework, the breed has been around a lot longer than you have. I have done my home work, and yes they have been around a lot longer than I have but not working in the UK, least not in any numbers. As the Original PW member say in one of his post "the breed being fairly rare" I am saying, they are new breed to the Uk. We have the best gundogs in the world, it shows as a lot of people set their standards by our working breeds. The Labrador, the English Springer and the English pointer, to name just three have been bred over many years to do what they do, and are the best of the best! Edited May 7, 2012 by Actionpigeons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Apologies for my rather curt comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I have done my home work, and yes they have been around a lot longer than I have but not working in the UK, least not in any numbers. As the Original PW member say in one of his post "the breed being fairly rare" I am saying, they are new breed to the Uk. We have the best gundogs in the world, it shows as a lot of people set their standards by our working breeds. The Labrador, the English Springer and the English pointer, to name just three have been bred over many years to do what they do, and are the best of the best! Not to take issue with you, actionpigeons, as I agree with 90-odd percent of what you've written. But there have always been tolling dogs (or in the vernacular, "piping" or decoy dogs) in the UK, long since before the Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever was recognized as a breed. The problem with tollers nowadays, as a working gundog, is the "wrong" people seem to get their mitts on them - and they don't get adequately trained or worked as a gundog, either over there or in North America. It's apt to change, however, at least in these parts - but given their origins (in North America) as tolling dogs for market hunters, they really weren't a gundog a'tall - sort of neither fish nor fowl among breeds, as the tolling (luring) for wildfowl was their stock in trade. Retrieving apparently came later, as did working them as flushing dogs which is perhaps their forte (from my experience). MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actionpigeons Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) Not to take issue with you, actionpigeons, as I agree with 90-odd percent of what you've written. But there have always been tolling dogs (or in the vernacular, "piping" or decoy dogs) in the UK, long since before the Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever was recognized as a breed. The problem with tollers nowadays, as a working gundog, is the "wrong" people seem to get their mitts on them - and they don't get adequately trained or worked as a gundog, either over there or in North America. It's apt to change, however, at least in these parts - but given their origins (in North America) as tolling dogs for market hunters, they really weren't a gundog a'tall - sort of neither fish nor fowl among breeds, as the tolling (luring) for wildfowl was their stock in trade. Retrieving apparently came later, as did working them as flushing dogs which is perhaps their forte (from my experience). MG we can agree to disagree over the less than 10% then J.D Edited May 7, 2012 by Actionpigeons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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