Vulcha Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Me and my shooting pal have arranged some lamping for friday night. I was just wondering, is there any advantage over using a lamp which is mounted on the scope of your gun? At the moment, we have a hand held lamp and have 15 minute "shifts" holdnig it, so we each get in a fair amount of shooting. I've been considering a lamp for some time, but I know nothing about them whatsoever, other than that logun and deben seem to come up quite alot while refering to lamps. Anywho, any advice would be rather helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Well for starters your not going to have to relay any intructions to your lamping partner as to where to point the lamp. You will have a better view through the scope as the light will always follow it. You'll also be able to shoot on your own without the need for someone to hold a lamp. Having the light mounted on your scope will also enable you to dim the light to a very low setting and still get a good reflection from eye's in the field. Your also less likely to miss spotting potential quarry. As for a good lamp, personally I would go for a Deben Max Pro. They have a 400m beam and weigh very little. The battery is 7.5 amps and will last a nights lamping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 As for a good lamp, personally I would go for a Deben Max Pro. They have a 400m beam and weigh very little. The battery is 7.5 amps and will last a nights lamping. Top lamp variable beam and light weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ratcatcher Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Hi m8, i use the deben tracer with a red filter, this works well too, i thinks it has a beam to upto 250 meters or so, ive shot plenty using mine and well worth £80 of anyones dosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 I had a Deben Max Pro with dimmer and although it's ok for rabbiting I was'nt impressed with the beam for foxing .............Then I changed the bulb ........Completely different beam and as good as anything you can buy on the market Strongly advise the dimmer switch version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted August 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Thanks guys. I'm in need of a lamp for friday night. I spose I best see what my loacal gunshop has seeing as I have no money to buy one right now. Theres a lamp out there for £55 I think, but I'm not sure of the make or anything. I'll have a look what they have tomorrow and report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancs Lad Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Thanks guys. I'm in need of a lamp for friday night. I spose I best see what my loacal gunshop has seeing as I have no money to buy one right now. Theres a lamp out there for £55 I think, but I'm not sure of the make or anything. I'll have a look what they have tomorrow and report back. I had the tracer tactical...............top little lamp................great mounting battery on the stock, dimmer and on off on the fore end of your stock. Only got rid of it due to getting a NV............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Buy cheap buy twice, save your money up for a decent quality lamp. There will always be other lamping sessions available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted August 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Thats a good point axe. I have a beamshot TH10 torch majoger which has 70 lumens of power and 50 hour rating. Its the torch that came with the tactical nighthawk I won (which was promptly tradered in as px for a hornet!) All I need for that is some new batteries and a way to mount it on my gun somehow. Can't you get those mounts for putting stuff on your scope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 If this is a quick fix just to get you out of trouble, you need to find BA from the A-team, he's a genius with Gaffa/Duck Tape. You could always try and mount the light under the rifle or to one side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted August 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 It comes with a weaver mount (I think) which goes in the trigger guard so I could mount it that way, but I think on the scope would just be better for ease of use. Could be wrong though as I've never used a scope mounted lamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted August 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Well I went to the gunshop today and came back with a....... Deben Tracer Max or summit. The lamp is huge and the battery is also pretty beasty, but the lamp is still really ligh. Just took it out in the back garden and I reckon martians could see it! Can't wait until tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Well I went to the gunshop today and came back with a....... Deben Tracer Max or summit. The lamp is huge and the battery is also pretty beasty, but the lamp is still really ligh. Just took it out in the back garden and I reckon martians could see it! Can't wait until tomorrow. If it's the 400 max pro then i strongly advise a red filter for it as this 400m bright beam becomes a lovely diffused 100m red beam .............IDEAL for airgun ranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted August 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Yea, it is the 400m beam. I've spent all my money though. I only have enough left for food and some drink for saturday. I shall invest in one for next time though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Yea, it is the 400m beam. I've spent all my money though. I only have enough left for food and some drink for saturday. I shall invest in one for next time though. I will let you know how i get on with My new bargain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted August 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Thats the one I've got. Just yours was much cheaper than mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Thats the one I've got. Just yours was much cheaper than mine. i know what a bargain, ordered a red filter aswell. hope it's better than the LOGUN lamp i had last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted August 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Well, I wasn't too impressed with my lamp. I don't know if its meant to be like this or not, but the beam pointed right at the floor rather than running paralell with the scope (which would make more sense to me.) Can anyone tell me how the lamp is meant to be set up and weather its meant to run paralell to the scope or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Well, I wasn't too impressed with my lamp. I don't know if its meant to be like this or not, but the beam pointed right at the floor rather than running paralell with the scope (which would make more sense to me.) Can anyone tell me how the lamp is meant to be set up and weather its meant to run paralell to the scope or not? i have not Received mine yet but before i purchased it i read this. it would seem there is a rotary adjustment on the rear of the lamp. 12V 50W xenon bulb and reflector combination has increased beam brightness to 400m and battery life is a full 1.5 hours. New speed elevation system, no more fiddling to get the correct beam alignment. With the Tracer® Max the elevation and windage are controlled by a single rotary adjustment at the rear of the housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted August 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Ah right, so thats what thats for.I thoguht it was brightness control or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Ah right, so thats what thats for.I thoguht it was brightness control or something Let me know how you get on :( i wont get mine till wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 just check that adjustment there are 2 parts the inner one is altered via a allen key this one either lifts the beam or moves from side to side cannot remember which way round they are. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 On mine the adjustment allen screw and plastic nut don't alter much at all other than centralise the beam when scope mounted............What I will say is this though ,By playing around with the insertion depth of the bulb will make a awful beam into a superb one ..Having only found this out recently I speak from experience :( .........Changing the brand of bulb can make a huge difference as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Ok I got mine and WOW so much better than the logun. It needs 2 things · A permanent fixing to the scope as the 1 provided slips all the time, I believe there is aluminium one available. · The battery is so heavy on the belt straps it literally pulls your pants down. I have modified the battery case to a shoulder strap fixing. (Pics and how to will follow) All in all a cool piece of kit, had 6 floppy eared friends in 1st hour just walking around. Ps I did have the red filter attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgey Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Ok I got mine and WOW so much better than the logun. It needs 2 things· A permanent fixing to the scope as the 1 provided slips all the time, I believe there is aluminium one available. · The battery is so heavy on the belt straps it literally pulls your pants down. I have modified the battery case to a shoulder strap fixing. (Pics and how to will follow) All in all a cool piece of kit, had 6 floppy eared friends in 1st hour just walking around. Ps I did have the red filter attached. Hi m8, them deben lamps are impressive ain't they! went out last night with my Deben Atom, red filter attatched had 3 bunnies in 45mins, work really well especially with red filter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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