JonathanL Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Out of interest how can the wheel fall off so to speak when you have a dated and timed copy of the details sent, then a read receipt that they have read it and an acknowledgement they have updated their records? Herts seem to know it cuts down admin time and lost items in the post and have been working this way and advising to send in notifications like this for ages. I entirely agree. It is a requirement though that you do it by recorded delivery. Until notifying by email actually becomes legal it is offence not to do it by recorded delivery. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 All i care about is that if someone who's job title is Force Licensing Manager tells me to do something (and that something makes my life easier), I'm doing it... snap take their advice over a pedant on PW any day Not been prosecuted yet for e-mailing in on their instructions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) Avon and Somerset have got an email address which was given to me to send all of my notifications in on, I have not yet sent one by post. IMO it's a far better system as it's easier for the police to keep track of and I have proof that I sent the notification at a specific date and time and who to. Edited June 18, 2012 by Livefast123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 It has come into law but it is not yet actually legal to do it that way. There is a required consultation on suitable methods that has to be carried out first which, to the best of my knowledge, hasn't been done yet. The police then have to establish an email address to do it and publish the fact. I certainly haven't been notified of my force's official method of notification and I don't know anyone who has. J. I am somewhat surprised that you are not up to par on this. Implementation and feasability has been discussed at some length by the ACPO FELWG. Surely you read the minutes to keep abreast of such matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted June 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 You did, by the way, suggest that dealers were contemptuous of their customers and were trying to rip them off with high charges and that they had a 'so tough' attitude (post number 25) Sigh..... a subtle reordering of the words I used which completely distorts their meaning. Your quote has me saying ALL dealers are contemptuous of their customers and ALL dealers have a 'so tough' attitude. What I actually said was - those dealers who say 'I'll charge what I like and there's nothing you can do about it, so tough' are contemptuous of their customers. A significantly different meaning, I think you'll agree and one which isn't quite the wholesale slandering of the gun trade which you imply. I really have had enough of this now. Shall we draw a line under it? Failing that I'm going to have to reluctantly make use of the 'ignore' feature for the first time ever :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 JonathanL, What shop do you work at please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 I am somewhat surprised that you are not up to par on this. Implementation and feasability has been discussed at some length by the ACPO FELWG. Surely you read the minutes to keep abreast of such matters. So, in other words, it's not actually legal as yet. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 So, in other words, it's not actually legal as yet. J. However it is legal to stab a Welshman to death if he strays onto the close of Wells Cathedral on a Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 However it is legal to stab a Welshman to death if he strays onto the close of Wells Cathedral on a Sunday. Really??? Ah well, suppose a stabbing is less degrading than a good old fashioned public flogging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted June 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 However it is legal to stab a Welshman to death if he strays onto the close of Wells Cathedral on a Sunday. Or into the city walls of my home town of Chester, though I think a crossbow is the mandated lawgiver? Although how would "any lawful quarry" on your FAC conditions stand up? :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Really??? Ah well, suppose a stabbing is less degrading than a good old fashioned public flogging Or into the city walls of my home town of Chester, though I think a crossbow is the mandated lawgiver? Although how would "any lawful quarry" on your FAC conditions stand up? :yp: Or something like that anyway. Maybe it's that they can't drive goats through Westminster. Whatever it is I'll do as my Force Licensing Manager tells me in writing to do, m'laud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark35gun Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 I haven't shouted anyone down. I've pointed out where people are wrong - what's the problem with that? If people keep posting things which are not correct then why can't I correct it? There have been several points made on this one thread which simply are not correct. A case in point is the one which was made regarding the notofications RFD's have to make to the police; a dealer absolutely and categorically does not have to notify the licensing department when he takes a gun on to his books. The exception would be if the police have added a condition to require it to his registration. Now, people can keep repeating that incorrect fact as much as they like but it does not make it true. The point of a discussion place like this is that eventually (hopefully) people arrive at the riight answer and that won't hapen if people are labouring under a mistaken belief as to the facts. You did, by the way, suggest that dealers were contemptuous of their customers and were trying to rip them off with high charges and that they had a 'so tough' attitude (post number 25), this after just having said that you didn't even ask the dealer in question whether he would take the item in for you. You simply ordered it and then informed him that it was coming, expecting him to take delivery for you as if you had some sort of right to have him take it in for you. J. Jonathan is 100% right gents regarding RFD notifications , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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