shotgun sam Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-18884795 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidment78 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 I have a feeling this may be a case of shutting door when the horse (or deer) has bolted, once they are in and established then I can not see them being stopped easily. I have to say that I quite like these little fellas though, good sport and great taste! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) shame we dont have any round where i am wood love to have a go at them ................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ ....offers ? Edited July 18, 2012 by swiss.tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) shame we dont have any round where i am wood love to have a go at them ................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ ....offers ? Allegedly, Tony, there have been sightings in N. Lincs and East Yorkshire and up as far as York but I can't remember where I read it. I've certainly never seen any. In fact, quick trawl later: http://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/showthread.php/18205-Muntjac-how-far-have-they-spread-into-yorkshire Edited July 18, 2012 by DaveK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 What a load of old cobblers, they do that much damage and would bring in plenty of money from foreign hunters. The notion you can't shoot them out as they breed to quickly is also BS, at the request of the landowner I have completely removed them, bar maybe one or two, from my permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry31 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Loads in lincoln shot 3 in one sitting and saw at least 13 more on the feeders they do taste good but I always struggle skining them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Loads in lincoln shot 3 in one sitting and saw at least 13 more on the feeders they do taste good but I always struggle skining them Do you skin them straight away ie: while warm ? the skin seams to weld its self to the body once they go cold imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Loads in lincoln shot 3 in one sitting and saw at least 13 more on the feeders they do taste good but I always struggle skining them Pack them some snap and a flask and send them North. Remember they'll need their passport though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry31 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Im up in lancs so skinned them once I got home and yes they are welded on little **** its easier getting into my Yorkshire mates wallet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Im up in lancs so skinned them once I got home and yes they are welded on little **** its easier getting into my Yorkshire mates wallet Ha nice qoute if you can skin them while warm/ freshly shot, alot easier, well i find it alot easier anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgun sam Posted July 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 My 223 is on an open licence for vermin and roe deer will the vermin bit cover shooting mintjac? Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry31 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Im back down end of month ill see how I go on cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry31 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Interesting question I would think so but a quick call to you FEO wouldn't go amiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry31 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 223 roe you must be in scotland? ........or am I being thick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deiseboy Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Here in Ireland there have been a few reported sightings and one shot and pictures taken as proof.. On the Irish NPWS deer licence it has muntjac to be shot on sight all year around. They are a deer species though so the deer licence is needed even though they are vermin and the minimum caliber is a .22 bullet over 60gr with muzzle energy over 1700foot pounds. so its a .22-250 or a .243 up.. I presume they want them shot on sight for the same reason they do here..so they wont interfere with native deer species. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicehorn Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) Here in Ireland there have been a few reported sightings and one shot and pictures taken as proof.. On the Irish NPWS deer licence it has muntjac to be shot on sight all year around. They are a deer species though so the deer licence is needed even though they are vermin and the minimum caliber is a .22 bullet over 60gr with muzzle energy over 1700foot pounds. so its a .22-250 or a .243 up.. I presume they want them shot on sight for the same reason they do here..so they wont interfere with native deer species. Think you will find that it is 'over 50 gr' and 1000 fp ... well that is the status quo for England I think the concensus of opinion re shot on sight is more to protect flora than fauna Edited July 18, 2012 by dicehorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgun sam Posted July 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 223 roe you must be in scotland? ........or am I being thick Gerry31 Yes I live in Scotland. Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry31 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Hi Sam glad to hear it. I was a bit dozzy not picking up on the 223 for roe dooo as for mountys I would think your ok with vermin and roe in an open ticket cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 I presume they want them shot on sight for the same reason they do here..so they wont interfere with native deer species. 'They' whoever they are say Muntjac drive Roe out, I can only report what I have seen having spent a lot time watching them and that is they live shoulder to shoulder quite happily. IMO tree wise at least, Roe are far more destructive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bolt94 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 This is something I have started to get involved in recently and my understanding is that Muntjac deer aren't native species yet are thriving and becoming a huge pest due to the amount of damage the cause. Similarly, they are involved in a massive amount of RTCs every year. This is a major factor of the Shoot On Site. The population in Britain accounts for 10% of the world population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 my understanding is that Muntjac deer aren't native species yet are thriving and becoming a huge pest due to the amount of damage the cause. Neither are Fallow, but they don't get labelled as pests. Only Red and Roe are native, the other 4 were all introduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bolt94 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 You may be correct as I am not 100% sure. I was told that the issue is that in England they are thriving and thus developing in large numbers with each Doe giving usually 3 young. They can cause significant damage and are involved in a lot of RTCs which I guess is a major concern. I shall ask a few people I know if they have any more info on this subject!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicehorn Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Hi Sam glad to hear it. I was a bit dozzy not picking up on the 223 for roe dooo as for mountys I would think your ok with vermin and roe in an open ticket cheers Deer are NEVER classed as vermin - not even a muntjac which is covered by the Deer Act Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 T Bolt have look round here, loads of facts about deer http://www.bds.org.uk/learn_about_deer.html Muntjac don't seem to get thumped by cars any more than other deer, or foxes or badgers, rabbits etc. the only deer I have ever hit was a roe. I am not defending Muntjac but they do seem to attract of ill informed comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bolt94 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Thanks Dunkield...I shall have a read!! Like I say, I am fairly new into this scene and it's just stuff I have been told. I appreciate the link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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