hafod Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 has anyone made a sub calibre insert as the yanks call them to use in their 12 bore , i turned one the other night in .410 to use in an old 12 bore o/u that i have ( they could be made in 20 bore and 28 bore i suppose ), and it patterns suprising very well at 25 yards , well the squirrals dont think a lot of it anyhow took out 5 yesterday mild report , half the shot , half the powder , 2 bore sizes 1 gun simples regards andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 more costly tho to shoot than 12g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hafod Posted August 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 how are you sparkie not if you reload for it 1lb of alliant 2400 @12.5 grains and 1/2 oz of shot for a 410 and it will keep you going for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 yer im good. you? if ya reloading then fair enough......most dont tho for cost of .410 carts were the main reason i sold mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hafod Posted August 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 fine thanks yeah your right if i did not reload for it then i could not afford to shoot it , sold my 410s back 3 years ago , then looking through my ammo cabinet last week i found some winchester AA cases i reloaded back a few years ago , so i turned the insert the other night and it was a reasonable job , and works quite well ,so i,ll have to reinstall my 410 die set back in the mec 600 jnr when i,ve used what i,ve got loaded . andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 the problem is that you dont get the full potential of the cart .as the only pressurised burn you get is in the insert. as the wad is not largenugh to seal the travle down the barrle where the speed of the load is developed . when you tryed them i bet it left a dirty barrle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hafod Posted August 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 hi fruitloop the one that i turned has a length of 130mm ( just over 5 inches in old money ), i supose your right in what your saying it could have been made longer to give a more consistant burn rate pressure rate for the powder , but saying that it seem to be doing the job , plus it saves buying another gun to sit in the cabinet thats only going to be used only now and again . andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry31 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 A few years ago we used to shoot 4 gauge nssa skeet on the usa bases we used full length tube incerts from america I've since sold mine but im sure they can still be purchased however they are very expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 without being too pedantic, did you know you need to have the gauge inserts proofed? not that i`m being silly, but the .410 is supposed to be running at 13500psi compared to the relatively limp 10500psi 12gauge. (thats 70mm chamber) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry31 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 I think you will find the ones from the usa are all proofed they are used extencivly out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 without being too pedantic, did you know you need to have the gauge inserts proofed? not that i`m being silly, but the .410 is supposed to be running at 13500psi compared to the relatively limp 10500psi 12gauge. (thats 70mm chamber) I'm not saying your wrong, however I would have thought that they would only need proofing if you were to sell them, as with other firearm things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 If you buy little skeeters or gauge mates they are not proofed why are these different?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 If you buy little skeeters or gauge mates they are not proofed why are these different?? they should be as they are a pressure bearing part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 If your selling and made here they have to be proofed. If your doing for your own use they are fine i believe. Guns from the USA do not need British proof as historically they are on a list of countries we see as competant manufacturers of firearms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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