Airforcehunter Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Fellas, Curious if they sell this ammo here in the UK? I tested a box last year in the field and its insane. Out to 40 yards you dont even lead the duck/goose...just put the barrel on them and they fold. Takes a little to get used to, but takes all the guess work out of the lead at long distances http://www.cabelas.c...80#BVRRWidgetID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fal Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Hi Airforce, I dont think ammo over a certain FPS speed is allowed in the UK. I think CIP regs stop us using this ammo, Remington do another shell for the UK market, I think it is called Nitro Steel. I think that is the best about. I looked into whether these were available a while back, I watched some videos on youtube of people testing them, like you say, they look great. Someone will know the full story behine why we are not allowed I am sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 If you could hit everything you aimed at, I'd give up shooting. I concentrate on killing with a single shot not 'hitting with no lead' . Whilst I know you arent advocating that, it would make shooting a certainty and who wants that (provided injured quarry is not the result). I would keep looking for your' magic bullet' and hope you never find it !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoggy Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Hi Airforce, I dont think ammo over a certain FPS speed is allowed in the UK. I think CIP regs stop us using this ammo, Remington do another shell for the UK market, I think it is called Nitro Steel. I think that is the best about. I looked into whether these were available a while back, I watched some videos on youtube of people testing them, like you say, they look great. Someone will know the full story behine why we are not allowed I am sure. Fal, I use the Nitro along with the Sportsman. The Nitro is slightly better. 1700 fps is certainly going some, I would definately try it if it were available over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 The faster it goes, the quicker it slows down. Down range they won't be any different from a standard Remington steel cartridge. Waste of money in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airforcehunter Posted September 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I said the same thing, but after I shot it, I'm a beliver now Doesnt neccissarly improve your shooting, but definetly noticed a decrease in cripples and an increase in range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingmike Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 If you have a look on the American forums, people reckon it's been blowing their guns up. New guns as well, maxus etc. It looks like there are people trying to claim from Remington because of it. At the end of the day, received wisdom is that the faster steel moves, the more pressure it generates because it can't squash together like lead. I've used gamebore mammoth steel 3" 36 gram 1's for the last few years, as have my shooting pals and if you hit a goose / duck, its generally dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 The cip regulates the pressures and speed of cartridges we use here in UK. Look on basc site and there's a PDF file with all the criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xav Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 If you could hit everything you aimed at, I'd give up shooting. I concentrate on killing with a single shot not 'hitting with no lead' . Whilst I know you arent advocating that, it would make shooting a certainty and who wants that (provided injured quarry is not the result). I would keep looking for your' magic bullet' and hope you never find it !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 If you have a look on the American forums, people reckon it's been blowing their guns up. New guns as well, maxus etc. It looks like there are people trying to claim from Remington because of it. At the end of the day, received wisdom is that the faster steel moves, the more pressure it generates because it can't squash together like lead. I've used gamebore mammoth steel 3" 36 gram 1's for the last few years, as have my shooting pals and if you hit a goose / duck, its generally dead. Your statement about faster steel creating more pressure is incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Fellas, Curious if they sell this ammo here in the UK? I tested a box last year in the field and its insane. Out to 40 yards you dont even lead the duck/goose...just put the barrel on them and they fold. Takes a little to get used to, but takes all the guess work out of the lead at long distances http://www.cabelas.c...80#BVRRWidgetID I'm sorry, but that's rubbish. You still have to lead a target at 40 yards. I've loaded shells to over 1700fps. They are quick, but you still have to stay in front of moving targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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