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Just came back from feeding the pheasants, and saw a guy with a white van parked up next to the road... He was getting out his Harris hawk and there was some birds sitting on the other side of the fence... Now, he might have permission on the farm, but point number one, the gate to the field is not far from where he had parked next to the road, so you would have thought that he will park on the field rather than the road. And point number two, No farmer or gamekeeper will let anybody catch their birds this time of the season with a bird of prey. As soon as our birds see a buzzard, their gone... Is this the latest, or is this seen regularly?

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Sounds a bit odd to me and I agree I can't see any gamekeeper/farmer letting this happen during the shooting season my mate comes over ours from February to August to take rabbits pigeons etc but not at this time of year pheasants/partridges would not like this one little bit, did you ask the chap if he had permission?

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A company I have used several times to go out with, use Harris hawks on prime land adjacent to big shoots up at Gleneagles. He has permission for the land he is on although I am pretty sure the birds come over from the other estate. Not a lot you can do about that though is there! He will be paying for the land he is on and just happens to be benefiting from the land around his permission ;) So the guy may well have permission.

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It would have been easier to talk to him, I agree, but the guy who has got the permission to shoot that ground is a member on here, and that was definitely not him....besides, the place where he was parked was on a narrow lane with a lot of traffic, people had to wait behind him so that the oncoming traffic can past first, so I didn't fancy getting my truck smashed.

 

 

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The other thing is were he a poacher would you have got attacked for questioning him. Its pretty common if people are poaching they are also the type you don't confront alone, its the reason to have your farmers number at hand because usually he will know what neighbour to ask if you see someone suspicious. Ours works well we don't confront but we will observe and make the right calls and then the police get called if required.

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Just came back from feeding the pheasants, and saw a guy with a white van parked up next to the road... He was getting out his Harris hawk and there was some birds sitting on the other side of the fence... Now, he might have permission on the farm, but point number one, the gate to the field is not far from where he had parked next to the road, so you would have thought that he will park on the field rather than the road. And point number two, No farmer or gamekeeper will let anybody catch their birds this time of the season with a bird of prey. As soon as our birds see a buzzard, their gone... Is this the latest, or is this seen regularly?

quite possibly so, had a similar experience not so long ago
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Why is it strange?

 

I have permission on several large estates as well as some small farms to fly the pheasant and partridge with my hawks and falcons - although parking and flying from the road is not ideal and not something I do - if he has permission then it is up to him how he does it - as for why not park by the gate? - he is obviously trying to get a kill for his bird and will want to be as close as he can for the slip.

 

Oh and as for your comment about no Gamekeeper or farmer letting anyone with a bird of prey catch their birds at this time of year - clearly you have no idea of falconry!! - the season starts 1st Oct for pheasant and I've been out almost every day since then- killing at least one pheasant each time!! (Oh and all with permission too!)

 

Mike

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