Bangon Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Hi Folks, could any 17 Rem owners out there help me out. Im tempted by the 17Rem. What are the upsides/downsides to the round. Reason for asking is I have a 17HMR and .222. And was wondering if the 17 REM could do both jobs for me. I do mostly Fox/rabbit control. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) PM, "Si-Bore" he uses one, and check out the video section here where he uses it to great effect at very long distances. Alan Edited November 26, 2012 by Alanl50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 I don't think much has changed about it from last week so you can find more replies here mate: http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/227926-does-anyone-use-17rem/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangon Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Cheers for that mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 if you do alot of rabbit shooting then a rimfire is worth keeping for volume shooting. if its just a general all round rifle the odd rabbits and fox then the rem will be ideal. only thing the 222 has ove the rem is the fact you can shoot cwd and muntjac with it. where the rem you cant. but as your only after a vermin and fox rifle then thats not a worry. i really like the 17 remington but you also need to reload to ge the best out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangon Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 What sort of distance are you getting from it, ie flat shooting. point and shoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Hi Folks, could any 17 Rem owners out there help me out. Im tempted by the 17Rem. What are the upsides/downsides to the round. Reason for asking is I have a 17HMR and .222. And was wondering if the 17 REM could do both jobs for me. I do mostly Fox/rabbit control. Cheers Cutting down the amount of rifles you hold is never a bad thing - but can if not carefull leave to serious amounts of overlap or omision in your needs. Something i have been trying to perfect for the last 4 yrs or so. Currently i keep a .22lr for high volume silent vermin control up to the zize of hares, the .22 Hornet which will harvest rabbits both near and far and cull crows at longer ranges than the .22lr is effective (almost three times the lr and twice the hmr) as well as being a super foxer inside 200yds, lastly we have the .243 win that with correct bullet choice for application will handle foxes to Red deer leaving only wild boar (which are not thick on the ground or very available to 99.99% of us). Having come down from 7 different rifles at one stage! The Fac air has gone the slack being taken up with 12ft lb at one end and .22 lr at the other and the Hmr which is totally outclassed by the hornet and costs less to feed handloading. The heavy varmint .308 deer rifle (which although seriously good at static culling, was seriously heavy and clumdersome) and the 7-08 stainless which i once thought was needed for large deer. Never personally used the .17 rem but the .222 is a heck of a rifle and some cracking downloaded ammo can be achieved if you want to shoot lots of up to 200yd rabbits and still put them in the pot. The Americans do a lot of Turkey and small game work with .222 downloads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 What sort of distance are you getting from it, ie flat shooting. point and shoot there aint mega differences in any centrefire up to 200yds wind as always is the killer factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotemaster Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Kent has made a lot of good points on gun utilization and the old saw "beware the man with one gun" still holds true. Any cartridge has an ideal usage, the .17 Remington would not be good at all on rabbits as the bullet fragments into a thousand shards. It is a fantastic Fox cartridge and does well on the Coyotes here with little or no fur damage. The only downside that is relevant is barrel life or lack thereof, and that isn't really an issue if it is only used for hunting. I would hazard that barrel life with full bore loads is around 2500---but that's a lot of foxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark@mbb Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 I have a cz 17 rem with a 6x24x56 zeiss scope and rabbits upto 300yds on a good day are fine and charlies the same but the wind is a killer you can shoot a lot further with it if you master it but you only see the ones they hit and never how many attemps they have had to hit it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleaner4hire Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 It wont do anything more than your 222 will. Plus you will need to reload the ammo for the 17 Rem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotemaster Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 It wont do anything more than your 222 will. Plus you will need to reload the ammo for the 17 Rem. Besides being much flatter trajectory and instant kills due to hydrostatic shock and having a 50-75 yard range advantage, I'd have to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleaner4hire Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I doubt the 17 has any greater killing power or effective range. Trajectory is flatter yes, but as it is relative, once you learn it, it isnt really a problem; especially when you are talking normal UK fox/rabbit/corvid ranges. I own a 17 Rem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 If you are likely to shoot bunnies with NV the flatter trajectory will help overcome the range guestimating between 50~250 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleaner4hire Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 is the 222/223 really that loopy out to 250? I havent owned one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) is the 222/223 really that loopy out to 250? I havent owned one... Not excessively loopy - but the 17rem is about the flattest there is at about 4000fps with a lightweight bullet. Edited November 28, 2012 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) is the 222/223 really that loopy out to 250? I havent owned one... not at all my .223 is about 2.5" drop at 250 with a 200 yard zero and within 1.5" pretty much anywhere else. Lots get written by people who don't shoot much and enjoy looking at tables and paper. One things for sure i far prefer it for foxing as I know I can shoot through a certain amount of grass etc to get to the fox if needed without the bullet blowing up. Edited November 28, 2012 by al4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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