Oops Missed Again Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I’ve read quite a bit on the subject and am myself a “cleaner” but leaving out the accuracy implications why would you leave a barrel dirty? Can anyone explain why a rifle is less accurate with a clean barrel because I’m doubtful that they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) I’ve read quite a bit on the subject and am myself a “cleaner” but leaving out the accuracy implications why would you leave a barrel dirty? Can anyone explain why a rifle is less accurate with a clean barrel because I’m doubtful that they are. If the barrel is TRUE then it will always shoot better with a clean barrel. People commonly suggest they cleaned their barrel and now it performs like a shotgun, the answer is simple, they did NOT clean it, they made an attempt to clean it and gave up before the job was done properly, therefore potentially raising fouling and leaving the barrel worse than when they started. :good: Edited December 3, 2012 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 If the barrel is TRUE then it will always shoot better with a clean barrel. People commonly suggest they cleaned their barrel and now it performs like a shotgun, the answer is simple, they did NOT clean it, they made an attempt to clean it and gave up before the job was done properly, therefore potentially raising fouling and leaving the barrel worse than when they started. :good: Generally as above but there are differences in rimfire / centrefire and FAC air. An oft neglected consideration is corrosion which is far worse if the bare steel is left unprotected or fouled up, more guns are rusted out than shot out i think. Speak to any of the top rifle smiths etc and they will tell tales of broken guns that got fixed by a real intensive clean in thier hands, rather than the half harted attempt of the owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) If the barrel is TRUE then it will always shoot better with a clean barrel. People commonly suggest they cleaned their barrel and now it performs like a shotgun, the answer is simple, they did NOT clean it, they made an attempt to clean it and gave up before the job was done properly, therefore potentially raising fouling and leaving the barrel worse than when they started. :good: So what is your cleaning regime then Deker's? With both centrefire and rimfire if there are differences? Generally as above but there are differences in rimfire / centrefire and FAC air. An oft neglected consideration is corrosion which is far worse if the bare steel is left unprotected or fouled up, more guns are rusted out than shot out i think. Speak to any of the top rifle smiths etc and they will tell tales of broken guns that got fixed by a real intensive clean in thier hands, rather than the half harted attempt of the owner So what is your cleaning regime then Kent? With both centrefire and rimfire if there are differences? Edited December 3, 2012 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Being a novice I took the clean barrel works better as im not lazy and clean after every outing. But its taking more than 20 patches to get mine clean as a whistle and also use phosphor brush and nylon. Dont clean the rimfire barrel unless changing Ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oops Missed Again Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Thanks chaps, totally agree with you both. RF = What is the effect of lead on untreated steel? CF = What is the effect of cupronickel or copper alloys on untreated steel? What is the effect of "Nitro" powders on untreated steel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) i keep ontop of the centerfire with 009 and bore foam. i thought my second hand hornet barrel was knackered didnt know the cleaning regime of the previous owner gave it a deep clean and no better accuracy wise. dropped it of at Steve Kershaw and it came back putting 5 shots thru 2 holes at 100m. rifle smiths intensive clean. now im happy and can clean right. its not so much the effect of copper on the barrel more the moisture it traps and corrodes underneath the copper. Edited December 3, 2012 by cockercas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Rimfire (talking .22 lr) carries lube that acts as a moisture displacer during storage. however lead can soon build beyond that which is acceptable for fine accuraccy as can burnt and also unburnt powder etc- eventually it needs cleaning bolt internals aswell. What you never get is copper fouling like in a centrefire, as cockecass points out quite correctly moisure can be trapped by this fouling and by pure build up the rifling and bore can become clogged. Centrefires once cleaned should have a light rust preventor added to the bore or even condensation can rust a bore. Before use clean not only by dry paching but also one or two meths soaked patches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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