pestcontrol1 Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 As above really i am thinking about trying some steel loads for the pigeons but not sure on what powder to use. ie could i use As under 1oz of #6 steel cheers pc1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 er... you can get away with alot less than than 1oz and 1,1/8 oz steel loads. steel is completely different, the shot count on those are way higher than norman loads and a #6 steel wouldnt be my first choice. maybe my second, but not my first. there are loads available using vectan A0 for 24g steel cartridges that have a decent speed. i would suggest you load those. also uk4 / us5 shot is pretty decent on birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Cheers cookoff013 i was just going to try some pigeon loads out in steel not to bothered if i load less than 1oz as long as its a good speed il look into the AO data Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 yeah, A0 can push 24grams steel at 1500fps gaurenteed with A0. you can also shoot 28g and 32g loads. but dont expect decent speeds with the latter loads without getting into HP steel criteria. its a nice cartridge really, at those speeds and uk#4 / US#5 should be a great shell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 What wad would you use VP50 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 i would either use the csd078 - BP24 type wad or the wad i`ve been using at the moment is a lbc24. i have just proofed a load with the csd078 / bp24, but i am intending to use the LBC24 more. have you found any load data? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 No not got any data as yet but i am still lookin i did find some for another powder with huge powder drops not very good. I have some lbc24 wads what somone give me in my store so i have got everything appart from the powder and data recipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 As above really i am thinking about trying some steel loads for the pigeons but not sure on what powder to use. ie could i use As under 1oz of #6 steel cheers pc1 If you dont mind the cost longshot powder is stunning in a 23/4" case with 7/8oz loads 1600fps with very good patterns use 3mm shot for pigeon rook and teal 3.25 mm will kill any duck to 40yds pm me if you want data I shot a limit of duck of shep whites with this load the last time i took it out .Another big plus is you can load the small shot and longshot powder through the charge bar and bushings which speeds reloading up no end cheers for now Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 this was a quick pattern at 30 good paces 3.25mm shot 165 in the load 161 in the 30" circle winchesterSXP briley imp mod choke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 cheers chaps any info data welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 you have PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 i would either use the csd078 - BP24 type wad or the wad i`ve been using at the moment is a lbc24. i have just proofed a load with the csd078 / bp24, but i am intending to use the LBC24 more. have you found any load data? could you pm me that data or scan and send, you have my email as Iv sent you ranger plus data in the past cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 you have PM Cheers uk fowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 I am sure I read Titewad is good for steel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted December 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 loaded some up with longshot and AO in 3mm i will post patterns up on monday when i test them out. Cheers chaps for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I am sure I read Titewad is good for steel? titewad is the worst powder for steel cartridges, it is way too fast, even for 24g steel loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 titewad is the worst powder for steel cartridges, it is way too fast, even for 24g steel loads. Oh! Thanks for that! I was gonna buy some, but think I will give it a miss now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytheboy Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Alliant steel is good for some fast steel loads! I had some success with it, i have a wee book of decent data for steel using this powder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 PSB1 for 28 gram. CSB0 for 32 gram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) I tested two out of three loads this morning due to my auto stopping working dont know whats matter with it. The loads that i pattened was longshot and Ao. Boty were at a good 30 yrds with a 30" ring. I did shoot a tad high on them but not to bad i used mod steel choke which looking in my choke book is 0.2 extended. Both loaded up with 24g of 3mm steel. 24g 3mm steel longshot 146 inside ring 49 outside . 24g 3mm steel AO 177 inside ring 18 outside. 195 pellets in the load had 1 or 2 flyers with each load. sorry about pics took with phone Edited December 31, 2012 by pestcontrol1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 not much between them the top pattern is less patchy but they will both kill birds you will find they make a good cheap swatter load too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 uk fowler do you find that load with longshot is a dirty load quiet alot of crud in barrel. but having said that the AO was but not as bad. But you sertanly know when you let lose with the loudshot longshot lol good loads though cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Oh! Thanks for that! I was gonna buy some, but think I will give it a miss now. Both the longshot and the AO loads are good fast light steel loads. And in some steel loads i think go to fast and blow patterns but these two seem to ok and i will be hammering the woodys with them thanks to the generous chaps that gave me the recipe top blokes PC1 PS All the best in 2013 and shoot straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 i try to limit loads to 1500fps. and use bigger than average shotsize. from 1500fps + its just too expensive or changes the ballance off the load to too light, not enough shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 uk fowler do you find that load with longshot is a dirty load quiet alot of crud in barrel. but having said that the AO was but not as bad. But you sertanly know when you let lose with the loudshot longshot lol good loads though cheers yep there is a bit of dirt off them but they work great dont forget there 200fps faster than the AO load so yes they are loud try them both in the field I would be interested in your results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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