Maori Haz Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 ok first of all i'm sorry i started a new thread for this but i really need all the facts so i am prepared to send off for a SGC. what are the rules with the placement of the cabinet? e.g. does it have to be out of view from certain things etc. what do you have to do when sending off? where should i keep ammunition etc. etc. If you can add anything please tell me as all help is greatly appreciated. :look: Haz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Tonights homework Read this :look: Guidelines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maori Haz Posted October 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 212 pages! wow! that would be my homework for a long long time are there any briefer summaries? maybe highlighting the key points to it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maori Haz Posted October 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 anyone :look:? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandersj89 Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 anyone :look:? Give the local Firearms Officer a call or drop them an email, they are normally fine. Well mine is anyway. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 google for "surrey police firearms" found http://www.surrey.police.uk/flic.asp as the first hit If you still have questions after that lot, ask away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Surely it is worth 1/2 hour of your time to read and digest the Home Office Guidelines If you really are serious about applying for and purchasing a firearm there is no excuse for not knowing the rules. You will be surprised how much you will learn from this little exercise. ct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 If you are that concerned about it, wait untill you have your visit and ask the FEO's opinion. When I applied for my SGC I didn't have a safe at all. I just showed him where Iwas proposing to put it and showed him which one I weas getting and he OK'd it. I then bought the safe and bolted it to the wall. He then checked it when he delivered my certificate. I am not sure if hand delivering them is common but my FEO likes to do it. I would still advise reading the HO guidelines though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 unless someone from your aerie is going to answer this . highlighting the key points to it ? would be difficult as each authority has varying views. read the guidance, if you cant be bothered do a search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidney Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 most of it is common sense as it goes, just think about making everything as hard to get at as possible for a thief, keep the cabinet out of sight (where possible) upstairs is good, held in with those expanding bolt things as well is good, the keys are suppost to be with you at all times or bloody well hidden, shotgun cartridges dont have to be locked away but it is good practice. sid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 most of it is common sense as it goes, just think about making everything as hard to get at as possible for a thief, keep the cabinet out of sight (where possible) upstairs is good, held in with those expanding bolt things as well is good, the keys are suppost to be with you at all times or bloody well hidden, shotgun cartridges dont have to be locked away but it is good practice. sid This is the basic jizt of things, when my FEO came over and walked in my house, my dog was going mental, i thought...ooooo how embarrasing, but he happily pointed out, whilst laughing that this is the sort of thing that can deter a theif, also things like security lighting on a house, locked doors, double glazed UPVC windows etc etc.. A good solid gun cabinet bolted to a concrete wall is a must, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDeeds Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 most of it is common sense as it goes, just think about making everything as hard to get at as possible for a thief, keep the cabinet out of sight (where possible) upstairs is good, held in with those expanding bolt things as well is good, the keys are suppost to be with you at all times or bloody well hidden, shotgun cartridges dont have to be locked away but it is good practice. sid Sorry to drag this thread up again (saves posting a new one!). Is it law that the cabinet keys have to be kept on your person (what about the spares), and all the time? Or must they just be un-accessable to un-authorised persons? My gun cabinet is in my hobby room. There are many tobacco tins, baby milk tins, etc, with nails, screws, gubbins in. I was thinking of keeping the keys in amongst them in one of the tins - is this NOT a good idea, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradders Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Reading the home office guide will give you a good knowledge base, it is easy to pick out the chapters that are relevant to you, it will also give you the chance to gen up the right information so when the FLO does visit you have some idea of the requirements yourself, this will do two things, firstly it shows you have done your homework and are serious, secondly it will stop you being "misinformed" by the FLO, there are many discussion threads on this forum that clearly demostrate just how little some FLO's know about these guidelines and firearms in general. So 1st gen up on the guidelines and 2nd give the FLO a call and ask for his/her advise..... Good luck...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Is it law that the cabinet keys have to be kept on your person (what about the spares), and all the time? Or must they just be un-accessable to un-authorised persons? My gun cabinet is in my hobby room. There are many tobacco tins, baby milk tins, etc, with nails, screws, gubbins in. I was thinking of keeping the keys in amongst them in one of the tins - is this NOT a good idea, then? No, you don't have to keep them on you. Yes, keeping them in a tin is fine, as long as only you know where they are :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDeeds Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Thanks Bradders. I'll look up the home office guide - I'm expecting my FEO to call any day now to inspect the cabinet and issue the 'deeds'. Is it law that the cabinet keys have to be kept on your person (what about the spares), and all the time? Or must they just be un-accessable to un-authorised persons? My gun cabinet is in my hobby room. There are many tobacco tins, baby milk tins, etc, with nails, screws, gubbins in. I was thinking of keeping the keys in amongst them in one of the tins - is this NOT a good idea, then? No, you don't have to keep them on you. Yes, keeping them in a tin is fine, as long as only you know where they are :unsure: Good. As I say, there are loads of tins in the hobby room - it's organised chaos. It would be easier to use large/power tools than look for the keys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Thanks Bradders. I'll look up the home office guide - I'm expecting my FEO to call any day now to inspect the cabinet and issue the 'deeds'. Is it law that the cabinet keys have to be kept on your person (what about the spares), and all the time? Or must they just be un-accessable to un-authorised persons? My gun cabinet is in my hobby room. There are many tobacco tins, baby milk tins, etc, with nails, screws, gubbins in. I was thinking of keeping the keys in amongst them in one of the tins - is this NOT a good idea, then? No, you don't have to keep them on you. Yes, keeping them in a tin is fine, as long as only you know where they are :unsure: Good. As I say, there are loads of tins in the hobby room - it's organised chaos. It would be easier to use large/power tools than look for the keys! The FEO wont want to know where your keys are anyway...As thats part of the rule...no one is supposed to know..not even him..he will just ask if both sets have been hidden and to insure your the only one who has access to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
converse320 Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Surely it is worth 1/2 hour of your time to read and digest the Home Office GuidelinesIf you really are serious about applying for and purchasing a firearm there is no excuse for not knowing the rules. You will be surprised how much you will learn from this little exercise. ct +1. Essential reading, Much of it won't apply to you and is easily skipped. But you need to be prepared to do some background work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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