lewis2012 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Hi all I've received my variation form today as I'm going to apply for a .223 for fox. I currently have a .17hmr for long range vermin mainly rabbit and my force ( Bridgend ) will not issue the HMR for fox that's why I'm applying for the .223 as the farmer wants charlie gone. What I wanted to know is the reason for the application shall I just put Humane Dispatch of Fox or Long Range Vermin/Fox? Also the form has not included a performa? I'm applying for the calibre for the land I already have permission on and its already been cleared for .223 so is that the reason? I also have a good friend who has offered to mentor me who has mentord 6people prior to me but he has a 22-250 but has once owned a .223 so do I just put in for a 22-250 or stick to the 223? Also so what's the process when I send this form off with my license etc? Do I have to arrange a FEO visit? Or will it just be straight forward as I'm goin to put in a covering letter stating the reason why I am applying for a variation and also I have a mentor Thanks all Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 I just put fox and and any other lawful quarry/vermin. Covering letter and send. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Calm down dear. 1. Decide on what calibre you want. Both .223 or 22-250 will deal quite nicely with fox. I went with a 22-250 because I wanted to. 2. On the form put 'fox and vermin' or 'fox and any other lawful quarry' if your force will allow it. The danger is if you just put fox that may be all it is conditioned for. 3. In the box saying where you will use it "land belonging to Mr A Famer, farm name and his phone number" should suffice. I would include a BRIEF cover letter stating that you have been controlling rabbits for your farmer for however long and you are now putting in a variation for a 223/22-250 to deal with a fox problem he has. If you say your friend will go out with you to begin with and give their name, it may save you getting a mentoring clause. Some forces will do a visit when you move from rimfire up to centrefire (I got a visit, but did apply for 3 CF rifles all at once) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangled99 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 I wouldn't mention the mentor condition, just put down for a 223, full bore moderator and ammo for fox and any other lawful quarry. The FEO will contact you, just post it off with your licence and a cheque for £26 I think. If the FEO wants a mentor let him mention it although it's not the law. If you want anything else now is the time to put it on the variation form as you can put what you like as long as you have a good reason all for the same payment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 yes as above your getting to giddy with all the technical stuff no need keep it simple FOX control end of they hopefull no what there doing at there end and have sin every thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 I just put fox and and any other lawful quarry/vermin. Covering letter and send. Definitely agree with Kyska's reply! And as Mangled99 says don't mention mentoring. Just face that hurdle if and when it arises rather than "inviting" them to slap a mentoring condition on you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis2012 Posted February 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Definitely agree with Kyska's reply! And as Mangled99 says don't mention mentoring. Just face that hurdle if and when it arises rather than "inviting" them to slap a mentoring condition on you! I just thought by offering them to impose the condition it will speed up the process and save save the FEO coming out only to impose the mentoring condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 If the mentoring system is not already de rigueur in your neck of the woods and you mention it, some bright spark may think that it's agood idea. In which case, you could end up much less popular than pig poo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 I suppose you might be better going out with the experienced chap first and then naming him on the covering letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 And don't forget to ask for a moderator as well other wise it will cost you another £26 to add one later....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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