-Mongrel- Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Having discovered today that my hide build is not good enough for the crows (except some real dense ones!), I'd like to know... How do you build yours, particularly interested in roof construction techniques? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 fishing brolly built into hide nets over brolly sit well back and still full cammo move at last moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Lost of ways. You can put 4 poles in a square, with a fifth pole slightly out in front. Net round all 5 as a wall, and put a net over the 4 in the square. That way you can sit back under the roof. Theres a pic here somewhere. I'm sure someone will post it up. If you use a bush as a backdrop, same again, but you can hook onto the bush. As long as you can sit back under the roof, you decrease the risk of being seen from above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad1 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 4x2 posts with noggins in between then just dot and dab some board .. Simples !!! Or failing that I put a net from the back to about half way to front at about 45^ to give some over head cover but still allowing you to stand ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) I do mine the same as turbo33. I space all my hide poles 1m apart. I've got 3 bamboo sticks 1m long with wire loops on each end, these I connect between the two side poles and across the back at the top, and also 2 x 1.5m poles which go diagonally front to rear. This makes the hide fairly rigid and less wind affected and they also support the net over the top out of the way when shooting. This might sound a bit anal to some, it takes a few minutes longer to erect and take down but I've got it down to a fine art now. I've got a 5m net which I bought at the shooting show and this goes all around the sides and back, I loop a second net along both sides and the front leaving a section at the top of the first net to see through and chuck a doubled up net over the top. I also wear a face veil and gloves. Edited March 16, 2013 by PhilR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Having discovered today that my hide build is not good enough for the crows (except some real dense ones!), I'd like to know... In my pm to you when you asked for advice, I did say "Hide. This has to be a masterpiece of disguise! Crows will spot anything wrong!! Build it in front of a good backdrop, bush,tree,hedge. If there isn't a backdrop, make one. If they can see through its game over. I use a thick net if I have too. This will give you some idea. (Pic) The next thing is a roof. They will look down and if they see you, game over. So another bit of netting over the top covering half the hide, so you can sit back under it and not be seen." I did take a long time replying to you at your request for help and advice. It would have been nice if you bothered to just pm a thank you, and as you evidently ignored my advice you have found to your cost that what I was saying was neccesary. Sometimes, its a wonder people on here bother to try and help others. Edited March 16, 2013 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) As posted above mate,a top net is a must for corvids along with a face net/veil and a 5 pole hide is the best way to go,it gives you a nice area at the front of the hide to shoot from,and the 5th pole pushes the net to create such an angle the incoming birds(to deeks) cannot see you through the netting,and stick your top net on the other 4 poles to create your roof Ive shot corvids for quite a few years,but of late iv'e got lazy and not bothered with a top net and if I'm honest my bags have suffered because of this so its back to top netting for me as per pics in post 5,as they say a picture paints a thousand words BB Edited March 16, 2013 by Bluebarrels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Iv'e got a piece of net about 3ft square with strong rubber bands on each corner,i just simply hook the rubber bands over the pole at each corner of the hide simples BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Good job PhilR :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frenchieboy Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) I use a Pop up hide placed as close as possible to a hedge for crows. Some pop up hides do tend to restrict the vision on really high birds but it gives really good cover all round. Edit: As an added bonus if it starts to rain or turn really cold it keeps you warm and dry! Edited March 17, 2013 by Frenchieboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Looks like some of us are readers of John Batley's pigeon shooting bible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted March 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 In my pm to you when you asked for advice, I did say "Hide. This has to be a masterpiece of disguise! Crows will spot anything wrong!! Build it in front of a good backdrop, bush,tree,hedge. If there isn't a backdrop, make one. If they can see through its game over. I use a thick net if I have too. This will give you some idea. (Pic) The next thing is a roof. They will look down and if they see you, game over. So another bit of netting over the top covering half the hide, so you can sit back under it and not be seen." I did take a long time replying to you at your request for help and advice. It would have been nice if you bothered to just pm a thank you, and as you evidently ignored my advice you have found to your cost that what I was saying was neccesary. Sometimes, its a wonder people on here bother to try and help others. I did see and digest your reply and to be honest thought I had replied to it, having just checked it's clear that I didn't. I had been in discussion with someone else as well and may have replied twice to them, either way it's appalling manners and I apologise profusely. I thought that I had done enough with the hide I built, and indeed put a camo net roof over it, but it became evident that there were two problems with it. One, the roof was inadequately supported and as it got wet it sagged creating problems with vision and getting up from under it, and two, as I said earlier, some crows obviously spotted it or me. I was in full DPM with gloves and veil as advised but maybe not still enough. Please do not be offended by my apparent inability to take good advice, it's more a case of being unable to convert that to a viable version. Once I again I aoplogise for my crassness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 I did see and digest your reply and to be honest thought I had replied to it, having just checked it's clear that I didn't. I had been in discussion with someone else as well and may have replied twice to them, either way it's appalling manners and I apologise profusely. I thought that I had done enough with the hide I built, and indeed put a camo net roof over it, but it became evident that there were two problems with it. One, the roof was inadequately supported and as it got wet it sagged creating problems with vision and getting up from under it, and two, as I said earlier, some crows obviously spotted it or me. I was in full DPM with gloves and veil as advised but maybe not still enough. Please do not be offended by my apparent inability to take good advice, it's more a case of being unable to convert that to a viable version. Once I again I aoplogise for my crassness. Apology accepted and not the least bit offended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 We put a shed up at my main crow perm this weekend just gone, supplied by the farmer lol. Took the window out made a lifting flap and fitted a skylight which we then draped silage netting over. This was positioned at the back of his yard overlooking the bread they nick. Usually I use I daiwa oval brolly with a net in front, just gotta get the shed fitted out with a kettle lol. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raist Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Hi all, Great posts. I'm new to crow/pigeon shooting and have recently bought a Winchester SX3, a pop-up hide, some decent netting/poles. OK, the equipment is good, but I am finding that I really struggle actually seeing the crows through the netting. If I duck my head out/up I have good vis, but they see me. Any advice as I am struggling to hit them at 40 meters. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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