Merlin64 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Im looking to get either a Baikal or Bretton and gaucher 410 . have read different reviews and the big thing some people say is the Bretton has a serious reduction in range due to cylinder choke . Anyone have first hand experience of these ? Im using it for night and day rabbit shooting and try at pigeons too . Thanks. L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean100uk Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 better of with a pedretti cracking guns low noise to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin64 Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Have you owned or any experience of the guns in the post was the question. But thanks for your contribution . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Baikal hushpower for me, I have one and its really nice and quiat Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin64 Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Thanks Rich , I gather you find the range is good up to what distance ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean100uk Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 yes had the peretti used it for pigeons on a small animal farm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 The pedretti is apparently the quietest from the reports ive read. Mainly because the moderator is full length, whereas on the baikel & mossberg ones its a bit smaller. 2nd hand they seem to hold their value, normally £200->£250 for the single barrel baikel or pedretti. The mossberg is a pump action 3 shot and is usually twice the price. Ive the mossberg one, and its pretty quiet although it does depend upon where you are shooting it. In the middle of a field its like a sneeze noise, but if your up against a hedgerow or buildings then its pretty loud as the noise rebounds. Range wise... mines full choke and will smoke clays into dust. Id not be happy shooting anything more than 30 yards away with it. I initially bought it for rabbits & thought it would be ideal if a magpie, crow or pigeon happened to fly over. But in reality i find myself just using my .22 air rifle more for the rabbits and the mossberg hasnt been out of the cabinet in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Thanks Rich , I gather you find the range is good up to what distance ? Depends really 40ft on pigeons 50ft on rats...but remember its only a 410 so no long range shooting as its not got the power...more of a farm yard ratter or squirrels in trees... But that's just my own opinion.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin64 Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 not much on the Bretton then? looking like the Baikal 410. is better on the whole ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I think the Bretton is quite a rare gun. Ive certainly not come across one before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I had both the pedretti & baikal but preferred the baikal which I thought was a better build. I had problems with the pedretti due to the firing pin coming dislodged in the action. A couple of my mates also had the same problem with theirs! Only downside with the baikal is it does not fold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin64 Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I want the hushpower as I don't like wearing ear defenders but I don't wanna go deaf either so its looking good for the Baikal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new shot Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Can the pedretti 410 be choked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin64 Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 made up my mind im getting the Baikal 410 . Good gun , well made , tight choke and lots of good reviews about it .heading off to gunshop near in the morning me he has got 3 in stock so I hope to be out in theafternoon/ evening for a shoot . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LlanelliRich Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Did you get the Baikal 410 then? What's your initial impressions of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I had a baikel 410 fully moderated single shot. I found it good to 25-30 yards and it was great on bunnies and about as loud as a springer air rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay222 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) I had a pedretti and it was very good, Sold it eventually but I am thinking of getting another Edited March 23, 2013 by jay222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin64 Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Didn't manage to get it today as had viewers on house up for sale at moment . Maybe look for a second hand one for around £200 in my budget . Baikal looks like what Im looking for though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy220 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I picked up a Baikal single shot hush from a guy on here. Cost me £150 or thereabouts. It's the version which has a 9-10" moderator rather than the full shrouding. It's pretty quiet with Eley hush power extra long. Although the odd cartridge catches me off guard every now and then. I'm pretty **** at shooting it to be fair. I've had a few close pigeons in flight probably 20 yards. But I have problems getting the aim right (or the range) when shooting bunnies on the ground. Though have had a few. Still I haven't used it that much and will still be taking it out Monday night to get some more practise. My mate has a 12 bore hush which is a bit louder but I have had much more success with it. Bigger cartridges plus its a pump so 3 shot. ******g ugly though...Mossberg synthetic stock. Like something out of Terminator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00buck Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I have a Baikal 20 g. And a Bretton and gaucher 410 the Baikal is good for rabbits but very long and they tend to shoot low so you have to aim over there head the Bretton is very light and short I have shot a few pigeons with it in the woods 410 ammo is not cheep but you can reload 20g eley hushpower is not the best I think gamebore hushpower is the best 30g 5 shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin64 Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Not much on the Bretton then I take it and the Baikal shoots low . Think I will stick with my air arms s410 for rabbits it has a long range and v. accurate . I have a Baikal 20 g. And a Bretton and gaucher 410 the Baikal is good for rabbits but very long and they tend to shoot low so you have to aim over there head the Bretton is very light and short I have shot a few pigeons with it in the woods 410 ammo is not cheep but you can reload 20g eley hushpower is not the best I think gamebore hushpower is the best 30g 5 shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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