George's Dad Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 The course was set up to be won on a 95 - so that was spot-on! On a personal note I 'reffed' it both days (note: r-e-f-f-e-d - as in done the course and got the badge) and was thoroughly entertained all day, the huge variety of techniques and levels of ability are fascinating to observe at first hand. Anybody who thinks it's just a question of sitting there and putting a tick or a zero on a scorecard are waaaay off line, and it was nice to be able to 'remind' one or two participants of some of the rules of a registered competition. (In a nice way of course.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Potter Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Hi George's Dad, What stand did you ref over the weekend? I was on stand 6 deep into the woods! Was a very cold but enjoyable weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 The course was set up to be won on a 95 - so that was spot-on!On a personal note I 'reffed' it both days (note: r-e-f-f-e-d - as in done the course and got the badge) and was thoroughly entertained all day, the huge variety of techniques and levels of ability are fascinating to observe at first hand.Anybody who thinks it's just a question of sitting there and putting a tick or a zero on a scorecard are waaaay off line, and it was nice to be able to 'remind' one or two participants of some of the rules of a registered competition. (In a nice way of course.) Ha ha think you told my mate not to shoot a no bird as you called or you would have to give him an official warning, this was on the morning day one. Were you on the L-R midi and orange Simmo stand. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George's Dad Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Yup, 'twas I. I was surprised when he complied as well! It's worth pointing out that I wasn't being 'bolshie' - very tongue in cheek, but with a sensible rationale behind it. If memory serves me right, the 90 sprung up like a teal, close in towards the rope bordering the walkway. The debris could've been a bit of a hazard. (Plus, it's in the rule book for those who care to look.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George's Dad Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Hi George's Dad, What stand did you ref over the weekend? I was on stand 6 deep into the woods! Was a very cold but enjoyable weekend! Was on 12. In the sunshine, all day, both days - me being the righteous type and that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 (edited) Yup, 'twas I. I was surprised when he complied as well! It's worth pointing out that I wasn't being 'bolshie' - very tongue in cheek, but with a sensible rationale behind it. If memory serves me right, the 90 sprung up like a teal, close in towards the rope bordering the walkway. The debris could've been a bit of a hazard. (Plus, it's in the rule book for those who care to look.) It wasnt a problem it was the right call . It gave us a good laugh Son of Potter needs a refs vest like yours with all the badges, otherwise according to some he will remain a trapper with a pen. Figgy Edited April 5, 2013 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky T Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Ha ha think you told my mate not to shoot a no bird as you called or you would have to give him an official warning, this was on the morning day one. Were you on the L-R midi and orange Simmo stand. Figgy That wasn't the only warning he dished out for that offence - i got told off too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Where does it say you can get a warning for shooting at a no bird? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Where does it say you can get a warning for shooting at a no bird? ******* students Booklet 5 section 3.15 NO TARGET 3.15 After a target has been declared a “No Target” it is no longer part of the competition. When a Referee has declared a target a “No Target”, on NO ACCOUNT must it be shot at. When a No-target is deliberately or intentionally shot at, the Referee will warn the Competitor and mark the scorecard accordingly. Should there be a subsequent occurrence within the same stage/stand the Referee will report the matter to the jury for a decision in relation to loss of target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Does seem a fairly illogical rule. Might have to have that dealt with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Does seem a fairly illogical rule. Might have to have that dealt with. You are ok if you don't deliberately or intentionally shoot at it not too sure you should be in charge of a gun if you shoot at things unintentionally or not deliberately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian E Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 The reason behind it is due to safety, when the targets are original set up they maybe be designed to travel within a certain arc and of course within the exclusion zone (275m) If a "No Target" travels outside this area and is shot at it, the shot could land outside the exclusion or possibly even be shot towards other stands\walkways etc depending on the layout of the course This and many other boring facts can be learnt by attending a safety officers course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 I've attended a safety officers course. I learned that stands should be set up so that when in the cage, the gun can't be pointed in a dangerous direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian E Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 (edited) Yes, but that doesn't always allow for some numpty that wants to shoot the "no target" by spinning thru 270 degrees to shoot some bits over his shoulder.. Hence why you get told off for shooting no targets. Anyway, you stick to washing machines ! Edited April 5, 2013 by Ian E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 The idea of cages is that you can't turn 270 degrees with a gun!! 30 degrees is the way forward. Quick wash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian E Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Depends which way the gun is pointing, short spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George's Dad Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Where does it say you can get a warning for shooting at a no bird? Still room on the Sporting Referee's Course at Park Lodge on 27th April. That way, you will be able to answer you're own question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George's Dad Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Sorry, should have read 'your own' - my English no good toneet! Also worth looking at Booklet 5, points 2.00, 2.01 and 2.05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 I'm au fait enough to get by, thanks. We all have a blind spot at times though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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