spoole76 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I have been asked to clear about 100 pigeons from a building site at the weekend where pigeons are causing huge problems. I've been shooting rabbits for some time but have no experience with birds. Any advice would be welcome. Are head shots best for pigeons ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancs Lad Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I have been asked to clear about 100 pigeons from a building site at the weekend where pigeons are causing huge problems. I've been shooting rabbits for some time but have no experience with birds. Any advice would be welcome. Are head shots best for pigeons ? heads/neck shots will stop them there and then. You can also take them by vital organ shots, but I only tend to do this if the bird has its back to me. Front chest shots then you might as well just let it fly off. Assume these are ferrals.....if so, make sure that you have a multi shot, use heavy pelets, I like bisley magnums for close in ferral control. With ferrals, they are stupid.............you can hit one.............they will take off,,,,,,fly around and land back in the same spot..........they are not like woodies at all.............. Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskyfox Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Im jealous...Pigeons are my favourite quarry . I think you will enjoy this...If theyre woodies stick with head/neck shots...ferals you can get away with chest shots at close range too. Just watch out where your shots are gonna head if you miss....oh and have fun! =) -Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoole76 Posted November 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Thanks for the info guys They are feral pigeons, I just want to be sure that I can despatch them humanely and not have them flapping around half dead ! Thanks Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Thanks for the info guys They are feral pigeons, I just want to be sure that I can despatch them humanely and not have them flapping around half dead ! Thanks Steve mmmmm shoot them my man dont worry so much enjoy cheers kirky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASH Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 hi now i am a new hear. i had a grate risulets on loggen penitrater the larger grane pelleits for wood pigens this year not good at long rang the pelleit drops to much get on the lager hever pellits for closes rang. good luck ps my spelleing **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ratcatcher Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Hi m8, go for neck shots with hollow points, well any pellet will do but i like to use rws super h point if i can. feral pigeons aint too hard, if there back is facing you, hit them in the back of the neck or head, chest shots are also fine but need to be hit in the right angel, ile add a pic in a sec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ratcatcher Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Heres 3 of the best shots on a feral, ive marked them with a red dot Hope this helps m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancs Lad Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 hi now i am a new hear. i had a grate risulets on loggen penitrater the larger grane pelleits for wood pigens this year not good at long rang the pelleit drops to much get on the lager hever pellits for closes rang. good luck ps my spelleing **** Theres nowt wrong with your spelling..................You are "Dutch" aint you...... Welcome aboard.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 It dont make a differnce at all but dont woodies have a thicker lining of feather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoole76 Posted November 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Hi guys, need to some more advice. Went to shoot the pigeons today but its not quite a building site, its a large building thats being re-developed. The building itseld has pigeons all over it and the new roof that recently went on is completely covered in pigeon waste. The problem is that it is surrounded by occupied houses so I am very concerned about shooting there. He says that the neighbours are fine as the pigeons have been causing them problems too. It basically a new road and people have only just moved in. If i was to shoot a would only be a few yards from this road. The guy wants to know what options he has to remove this pigeons, his happy to just shoot them himself. Any ideas ? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 get a eagle owl or sumit similar and place it on the roof this will keep em away !! you can buy these from most good gun shops and are about 18 inches tall kirky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskyfox Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Personally I doubt I would shoot there by the sounds of it (hard to comment without seeing it) but there are lots of anti-pigeon devices which can be bought for the building. Just look at say Cutty sark train station in London....its got rows of the plastic spikes and the pigeons keep away because they can't land there. -Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justme Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 I dont think you are allowed to shoot within 25m of a public road. I also dont think that the pellet can leave the property / land you have permision to shoot on. Both of these are firearm offences not just airgun offences. Justme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 "It is an offence to fire an airgun within 50 feet of the centre of a public highway, If by doing so you cause any member of the public using that highway to be injured, interrupted or endangered. This applies even if you are on private property adjacent the highway. Public highways include roads, bridleways and public footpaths." That is a direct quote, the implication is that you can shoot within 50ft if you can't be seen or heard by anyone. Be careful though. This does seem to be one for careful consideration, as has been said there are literally hundreds of companies out there in the business of pigeon control who sell all sorts of gizmo's that might be more appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justme Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 "It is an offence to fire an airgun within 50 feet of the centre of a public highway, If by doing so you cause any member of the public using that highway to be injured, interrupted or endangered. This applies even if you are on private property adjacent the highway. Public highways include roads, bridleways and public footpaths." That is a direct quote, the implication is that you can shoot within 50ft if you can't be seen or heard by anyone. Be careful though. This does seem to be one for careful consideration, as has been said there are literally hundreds of companies out there in the business of pigeon control who sell all sorts of gizmo's that might be more appropriate. Thanks for that clarification. There are also loads of companies out there that will help sue your *** off if you get it wrong / injure or upset some one. Justme PS just thought you could shoot right next to the M ways then if its from the center of highway.... Very odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Without derailing this too much, I think the law is trying to stop you from wandering about with a gun in view of the road - drivers are like little kids, they don't need much to distract them from what they should be doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabid bunny Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Hi guys, need to some more advice. Went to shoot the pigeons today but its not quite a building site, its a large building thats being re-developed. The building itseld has pigeons all over it and the new roof that recently went on is completely covered in pigeon waste. The problem is that it is surrounded by occupied houses so I am very concerned about shooting there. He says that the neighbours are fine as the pigeons have been causing them problems too. It basically a new road and people have only just moved in. If i was to shoot a would only be a few yards from this road. The guy wants to know what options he has to remove this pigeons, his happy to just shoot them himself. Any ideas ? Steve Is this "guy" the owner or occupier of the site? If not then you will not be an authorised person to shoot these pigeons, make sure that he is legit or you could be in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoole76 Posted November 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Thanks for the info guys. I'm going to give this one a miss, not worth the risk. I have some other good shoots so I'm not really bothered, just wanted to help out if I could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 hi, hope I can help a little here, dont shoot them unless you work for a pest control firm, the team I work for get asked this all the time, shooting in a public area can ONLY be done at night POLICE must be informed that a pigeon cull is taking place START and END times must be quoted there must be only ONE shooter, and One lamper/collector of culled pigeons shooter must hold a MARKSMANSHIP certificate and be INSURED HOLLOW POINT pellets MUST be used to stop ricochet culled pigeons must be taken away by a waste transfer firm and incinerated you must be in reciept of such paperwork from waste removal firm depending on the location the police may deem it nesessary to close off ajoining roads, this sort of cull cannot be sorted in a day, its a lengthy process getting all the right information from different public sectors, this makes it COSTLY, which is why he may have asked you to do it, thinking he can save ££££££'s BUT this would/could end up costing you very much more you could try giving this guy a quote on "live" capture and removal if you wanted, pre bait and area over a few days, then introduce a large live trap, carry on baiting/capture and just ring their necks, again though, make sure members of public cant see you culling the pigeon's cos you'll always get one that phones the RSPCA or RSPB saying your being cruel, and again you can get put in the $hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Who said to shoot them?? Best way is to trap them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Who said to shoot them?? Best way is to trap them Then shoot them :lol:some Pest control firms would look at which method would make the most profit for them no more no less :o Some of these so called pest control firms are nothing but rip off merchants If shooting in a public place can only be done at night then please tell me why the pest control firm that charge around £500 a visit to cull seagulls on a industrial estate where I was working the other week were shooting during the daytime?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabid bunny Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Who said to shoot them?? Best way is to trap them Then shoot them :o :lol:some Pest control firms would look at which method would make the most profit for them no more no less Some of these so called pest control firms are nothing but rip off merchants If shooting in a public place can only be done at night then please tell me why the pest control firm that charge around £500 a visit to cull seagulls on a industrial estate where I was working the other week were shooting during the daytime?? shooting seagulls? is that all right? I thought it was frowned upon on this forum, or even mentioning it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 why is it looked upon that my advice starts yet another slanging match over pest control firms, I was trying to give some helpful advice to the person who started this post, and excuse me if I cant read propely but his first post said "ARE HEAD SHOTS BEST" so I presumed he was gonna shoot them?? or do you think he meant chuck stones at them?? you say most pest control firms are rip off's, well your prob right, but just like every other buisness out there, they are there to make money, from those that dont want to get there hands dirty doing it themselves(most big coperative firms) you say seagulls were being shot in the daytime, few points to look at here, 1st could be they were the local council pest control(they can do it daytime) or that as it was an industrial estate rather than a public housing area the laws are different, or maybe they were a rip off firm who did'nt give a **** but we wernt talking about them, I was just trying to give some helpful advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 usually with seagulls during the day,they shoot the eggs on the nest ,usually in a cherry picker,not the actual birds,stops them getting to many numbers up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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