OvEr_KiLL Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 guys i have found a strange problem with my semi, yes it is a hatsan escort, blabla i know, sorry! right well, the catch on the top on the bolt thing where the firing pin is is supposed to catch on the lip of the cartridge when its in the barrel to be able to pull it back when it has been fired, correct? well thats what it looks like its supposed to do anyway. the thing is sometimes it doesnt seem to catch on the lip on the cartridge and it stays in the barrel when it has been fired meaning the gun jams and i have to use a knife to flick it back out i have just been testing it with snap caps to see what happens and it did the same thing, its never done this before and i have put a few hundred through it since i have had the gun does anyone have any ideas? could it be the catch has been worn down? i had a look at it and it still had a straight flat edge on it, i have also had the whole firing pin bolt assembly out of the gun and have inspected the catch and the spring on it seems fine, its not stuck or anything and springs back and forth easily when pressed with my finger thanx again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Try a different make of cartridge BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted April 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 (edited) Try a different make of cartridge BB well, it have used a few of them before and it never happend, and it has never happend with my snap caps just until recently so i dont think its the cartridges Edited April 22, 2013 by OvEr_KiLL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 well, it have used a few of them before and it never happend, and it has never happend with my snap caps just until recently so i dont think its the cartridges Maybe a bad batch of carts BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted April 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Maybe a bad batch of carts BB bb you really think so? you dont think its the catch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 so basically it's not ejecting the fired cart is that correct? BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA-airgunner Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Getting the same with my boys 20g escort but only since a real good clean...it happened twice in fifty shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted April 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 so basically it's not ejecting the fired cart is that correct? BB yes mate, its not pulling it back Getting the same with my boys 20g escort but only since a real good clean...it happened twice in fifty shots. any ideas mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA-airgunner Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 I'm going to have a look at the latch as its almost like its not gripping the brass or its skipping of it....could be a weak or broken spring .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted April 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 I'm going to have a look at the latch as its almost like its not gripping the brass or its skipping of it....could be a weak or broken spring .. well mine seems very tight and very springy let me know what you find please, thanx man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 As above could be a weak/broken spring,BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA-airgunner Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 OK on my boys 20g it seems the latch is worn I have no idea on how many rounds have been through the gun .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 well mine seems very tight and very springy let me know what you find please, thanx man If it was me I would try some different carts before looking for further problems BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted April 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 BSA how do we go about fixing it if it is worn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA-airgunner Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 (edited) I have the owners manual and I know its online for down load.....I had to replace the guide arm bushing on this on last week I ordered the part from my local gun shop . They got it in from Edgar brothers I did phone them first to see if they had the part so I will do the same tomorrow... Part number 606 extractor Edited April 22, 2013 by BSA-airgunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregthegreat Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 (edited) The spring loaded arm is the extractor. As for any firearm it'll either be: Dirt either on the face of the bolt or in the recess where the extractor sits preventing it from gripping the cartridge properly Worn/damaged extractor failing to grip properly Weak/damaged spring causing the extractor not to grip tight enough The thickness of the brass on the cartridges (have you changed type...?) Greg. Edited April 22, 2013 by Gregthegreat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted April 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 ok it looks like mine is worn, i have just taken the extractor out and will be ringing edgar brothers tomorrow and then my local rfd i doubt its the spring as it is pretty tight! and the cartridges well, its just started happening with my snap caps and i havnt changed cartridges always use gamebore velocity fibres and its been fine up until yesterday cheers gregster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 An old toothbrush will clean the affected parts nicely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted April 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 An old toothbrush will clean the affected parts nicely! cheers mate il do that aswel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 (edited) Try putting a little bit of oil down the back of it where the spring is, it may feel ok but it could be sticking as it goes forward and won't harm trying it. The single extractors do get a bit of a workout. I always run my semi auto wet and have less problems. Figgy Edited April 22, 2013 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Check if crud has got between the EXTRACTOR and the bolt preventing the EXTRACTOR from fanging the cartridge RIM. U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted April 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 (edited) Check if crud has got between the EXTRACTOR and the bolt preventing the EXTRACTOR from fanging the cartridge RIM. U yup will do tomorrow, still looks like its worn though Edited April 22, 2013 by OvEr_KiLL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Ok sir...they can wear! May of been a soft one! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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