harrycatcat1 Posted May 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 I have done a list of the folks that have expressed an interest (some pressganged) to be in Lincolnshire’s first Duck and Goose calling competition and also to raise money for charity. If I have miss read your intentions or if you are too shy to compete please pm me and I will take you off the list. I have limited it to 15 places in the duck and 15 places in the goose category as this is the first one. Duck calling competition (all species) 1/ harrycatcat1 2/ Yoggy 3/ ayano3 4/ Big Mat 5/washwildfowler 6/TJ91 7/ TJ91’s mate 8/joknob 9/Lister1 10/ WelshAndy 11/Steve (SLWC) Secretary 12/ 13/ 14/ 15/ Goose calling competition (all species) 1/harrycatcat1 2/Yoggy 3/ayano3 4/Big Mat 5/Washwildfowler 6/Lister1 7/Tam? 8/ 9/ 10/ 11/ 12/ 13/ 14/ 15/ I am hoping to be at the SLWC clay shoot on 2nd June if anyone wants to meet up and talk it through, don’t delay putting your name down as spaces are limited. I must reiterate it’s to raise money for charity, put faces to names and have a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Now hold on a minute here catcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted May 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Now hold on a minute here catcat Nothing ventured nothing gained, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister1 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Bigmat don't be a wuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon 3 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I was really considering making the trip to meet up and have a laugh but we go on holiday on the 10th, best of luck boys and hope to see some footage of professional callers here on PW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passionforangling Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I was really considering making the trip to meet up and have a laugh but we go on holiday on the 10th, best of luck boys and hope to see some footage of professional callers here on PW I wonder if any other wildfowling clubs have considered a venture like this...sounds a great laugh and a good way to raise a bit of money for charity....he says hinting!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) I wonder if any other wildfowling clubs have considered a venture like this...sounds a great laugh and a good way to raise a bit of money for charity....he says hinting!!! No need to mate, your only 100 miles away come to ours says he hinting Edited May 12, 2013 by harrycatcat1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I tried to edit the last post but it would not let me, put Marsh Road, Kirton into google and that is where it will be held. Regards Hcc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 A great idea and I wish you every success with it. We tried something similar on the South Coast a few years ago and it worked well. It might be worth us revisiting the idea since U.K. calling has moved on quite a bit since we had a go at this. If you type "duck calling competition rules" into a search engine, ( you probably already have!) you`ll get any number of sets of competition guidelines come up for your scrutiny. They are all basically the same,but I found it well worth giving them a read. You could see that, by implementing some of their suggestions, whilst not being too pedantic about it, you could arrive at a set of operating parameters which should ensure fair operating and would keep every body happy. We discovered very early on in an even earlier calling contest incarnation that, whilst you may only be treating this as a charity fundraising fun event - there would always be some who were more serious about it. A few minutes spent now in sorting out the contest framework should give you something that people will be increasingly keen to participate in for many years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 A great idea and I wish you every success with it. We tried something similar on the South Coast a few years ago and it worked well. It might be worth us revisiting the idea since U.K. calling has moved on quite a bit since we had a go at this. If you type "duck calling competition rules" into a search engine, ( you probably already have!) you`ll get any number of sets of competition guidelines come up for your scrutiny. They are all basically the same,but I found it well worth giving them a read. You could see that, by implementing some of their suggestions, whilst not being too pedantic about it, you could arrive at a set of operating parameters which should ensure fair operating and would keep every body happy. We discovered very early on in an even earlier calling contest incarnation that, whilst you may only be treating this as a charity fundraising fun event - there would always be some who were more serious about it. A few minutes spent now in sorting out the contest framework should give you something that people will be increasingly keen to participate in for many years to come. Thanks for the encouragement mate, yes I am in the process of "cribbing" some rules from our American friends. Regards Hcc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 If you don`t mind, and for the benefit of others who might not be quite up to speed on comp calling,I`ll just cover some of the other points that we dealt with and which might save you from spending a lot of time reinventing the wheel. It pays to have a broad brush understanding of the history of U.S. comps to put ours into perspective. Having originally started in the 1930`s comp duck calling, almost exclusively mallard, grew into a stylised form of calling with 10 -12 note "hail calls" etc. and comp calls themselves which became ever higher in pitch and speed of reed vibration until they sounded less and less like a real duck. Modern U.S comp duck calling is now more about demonstrating the technical ability of the caller and the "musical" range of the call, rather than imitating a duck. Until about 15 years ago that is, when a ground swell of dissatisfaction from ordinary "hunters" saw the emergence of "Meat calling contests." As the name implies, this is all about sounding like a duck. There are no 10-12 note hail calls, simply because a mallard can`t do that, and the whole thing is more geared to producing absolute auditory realism. There is some good stuff on You tube under a variety of headings which will give anyone interested a good feel for the above. There is no right or wrong, but as comp organiser you might want to decide from the outset what you want from your competitiors. The worst case scenario would be something like - a competent caller blows a "competition" style routine with long hail calls and machine gun feeding chatter on a J frame call. It is technically excellent, but parts of it sound like the high pitched buzzing of an angry mosquito since he`s using an expensive and high pitched comp call. The next competitor is blowing an Echo "cut down" Olt D2 style call. It is slow to blow and has great volume but a limited vocabulary. He does not include a hail call in his routine but he sounds exactly like a live duck. What guidance have you given your judges in how to deal with this sort of situation? Don`t be put off by this which I only mention to reinforce the point that a successful competition is all about setting clear parameters from the outset so that everybody knows and understands what is required of them. When we did our comps. we went down the "meat calling" route and clearly indicated that to competitors well beforehand. If you do decide to do this you`l have a great competition which could well be the building blocks for something much, much bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted May 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 If you don`t mind, and for the benefit of others who might not be quite up to speed on comp calling,I`ll just cover some of the other points that we dealt with and which might save you from spending a lot of time reinventing the wheel. It pays to have a broad brush understanding of the history of U.S. comps to put ours into perspective. Having originally started in the 1930`s comp duck calling, almost exclusively mallard, grew into a stylised form of calling with 10 -12 note "hail calls" etc. and comp calls themselves which became ever higher in pitch and speed of reed vibration until they sounded less and less like a real duck. Modern U.S comp duck calling is now more about demonstrating the technical ability of the caller and the "musical" range of the call, rather than imitating a duck. Until about 15 years ago that is, when a ground swell of dissatisfaction from ordinary "hunters" saw the emergence of "Meat calling contests." As the name implies, this is all about sounding like a duck. There are no 10-12 note hail calls, simply because a mallard can`t do that, and the whole thing is more geared to producing absolute auditory realism. There is some good stuff on You tube under a variety of headings which will give anyone interested a good feel for the above. There is no right or wrong, but as comp organiser you might want to decide from the outset what you want from your competitiors. The worst case scenario would be something like - a competent caller blows a "competition" style routine with long hail calls and machine gun feeding chatter on a J frame call. It is technically excellent, but parts of it sound like the high pitched buzzing of an angry mosquito since he`s using an expensive and high pitched comp call. The next competitor is blowing an Echo "cut down" Olt D2 style call. It is slow to blow and has great volume but a limited vocabulary. He does not include a hail call in his routine but he sounds exactly like a live duck. What guidance have you given your judges in how to deal with this sort of situation? Don`t be put off by this which I only mention to reinforce the point that a successful competition is all about setting clear parameters from the outset so that everybody knows and understands what is required of them. When we did our comps. we went down the "meat calling" route and clearly indicated that to competitors well beforehand. If you do decide to do this you`l have a great competition which could well be the building blocks for something much, much bigger. Thanks for the advice, it has certainly given me some food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Sorry to dump a lot of stuff in your lap all at once. Once you`ve decided how YOU want to proceed it should all be plain sailing. Just another thought. The internet was nowhere near so advanced when I arranged some contests many years ago. Once you`ve set up your operating parameters, and especially since many of the competitiors are already on Pigeonwatch, it should be easy enough to post them up on here for all to read before the competition kicks off. Although I put this part on the back burner some time ago, I`ve recently started a dialogue with a major U.S. call maker about something completely unrelated but I`d be happy to talk with them about sponsorship in some form or another. It won`t be much because most of the U.S. firms regard the U.K. as an insignificant market, but they`re feeling the pinch like the rest of us which might work to our advantage. Let me know if you`re interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted May 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Sorry to dump a lot of stuff in your lap all at once. Once you`ve decided how YOU want to proceed it should all be plain sailing. Just another thought. The internet was nowhere near so advanced when I arranged some contests many years ago. Once you`ve set up your operating parameters, and especially since many of the competitiors are already on Pigeonwatch, it should be easy enough to post them up on here for all to read before the competition kicks off. Although I put this part on the back burner some time ago, I`ve recently started a dialogue with a major U.S. call maker about something completely unrelated but I`d be happy to talk with them about sponsorship in some form or another. It won`t be much because most of the U.S. firms regard the U.K. as an insignificant market, but they`re feeling the pinch like the rest of us which might work to our advantage. Let me know if you`re interested. pm sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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