Wildfowler12 Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Morning all, I'm hoping you guys can help me out. I'm going to change the oil and filter on my motor this weekend. It seems simple enough... Unscrew the plug, drain the sump for 5mins, put the plug bck in, remove the old filter, grease the new one and screw back in, then top up with new oil? My question is about different oil grades, after consulting the car handbook (and google) I need to use 5w30 fully synthetic oil. But there's no mention of what ACEA grade should be used? I believe A1/B1 is suitable for petrol engines, but last time the garage used C3 oil (and I have about 1L of this left). Is it ok to mix different ratings, assuming that they are both the same grade? In other words, can I use the old carlube oil 5w30 C3, then top up with the new oil I've bought 5w30 A1? It's only so I have an empty container to put the old oil in. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 I would advising mixing different oils and phone your local manufacturers dealership , the service dept will tell you exactly what spec oil to use and how much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) If you have never done it before remember to take the car for a drive to warm the oil up it will come out a lot easier as the oil be thinner. Best bet to get the right oil is go to your local motor factors and give them your reg, they will almost definitely have it on the shelf. Oil and the filter will be cheaper from a decent motor factor than halfrauds etc. Have a ring around though because different factors offer different discounts, one local firm offer virtually trade price to anyone and another one only sell everything at list price to private buyers. I wouldnt suggest mixing oils chances are it will be fine but modern oils have got a lot of additives and some dont like others. For the cost of it just buy a fresh can for the oil change. Edited May 23, 2013 by ferguson_tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakari Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 You don't say what car/engine you have but probably need to be aware that EUSSR regulations in recent years have meant a lot of additives have been removed now...... particularly (IIRC) zinc so if it's an older car or a high performance engine you might like to consider putting in separate additives as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted May 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) Kia Sportage 2.0L Petrol (although I run it on LPG). I've just found the section in the book that says how much I need, 4.1L if the filter is being changed. As such, a 5L bottle will suffice, and no need to mix the oils. Thanks for the help. Edited May 23, 2013 by Wildfowler12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Potter Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) Wildfowler12 If you go to Dales Auto Spares, (On Lovely Lane near the hospital) go in with your reg and they will sort you out, probably the cheapest and best service in Warrington! Edited May 23, 2013 by Son Of Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted May 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Wildfowler12 If you go to Dales Auto Spares, (On Lovely Lane near the hospital) go in with your reg and they will sort you out, probably the cheapest and best service in Warrington! I've just got back from Dale's, Carol sorted it for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Dont forget to get a new washer for the sump plug as otherwise it may start leaking from there - and be sure not to over tighten it. Changing oil is a nice easy DIY job, although last one I did it had an undertray under the engine which took me longer to get off than it did to change the actual oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Potter Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 I've just got back from Dale's, Carol sorted it for me It's a cracking little shop! Great service and they are both characters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted May 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Dont forget to get a new washer for the sump plug as otherwise it may start leaking from there - and be sure not to over tighten it. Changing oil is a nice easy DIY job, although last one I did it had an undertray under the engine which took me longer to get off than it did to change the actual oil. Balls... I didn't change the washer. Is that vital? It was a horrible job if I'm being honest, must have took me 2hrs! The old filter was stuck solid and after several attempts to free it, I put a screwdriver through it! The under body / sump guard thing was also a b1tch to get off!! Still, I feel a little 'moneysupermarket' now for saving £20! Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 The right tools make the job easier. The old trick of screwdriver through the filter is ok until you tear the filter too much and can no longer get leverage on it. Changing the sump plug washer is recommended but not critical. If it looked fine when it came off chances are it will be grand to use again. I removed the sump guard from my car and ditched it. Makes oil changes a lot easier. Did you put any new oil in the new filter before installing it? You also mentioned about greasing the filter before putting it back on. A fine coating of new oil on the rubber seal is usually sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted May 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 A fine coating of new oil on the rubber seal is usually sufficient. Yeah, that's what I did. The plug looked ok so hopefully it'll be fine. I needed a filter wrench really, I know for next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakland rob Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Morning all, I'm hoping you guys can help me out. I'm going to change the oil and filter on my motor this weekend. It seems simple enough... Unscrew the plug, drain the sump for 5mins, put the plug bck in, remove the old filter, grease the new one and screw back in, then top up with new oil? My question is about different oil grades, after consulting the car handbook (and google) I need to use 5w30 fully synthetic oil. But there's no mention of what ACEA grade should be used? I believe A1/B1 is suitable for petrol engines, but last time the garage used C3 oil (and I have about 1L of this left). Is it ok to mix different ratings, assuming that they are both the same grade? In other words, can I use the old carlube oil 5w30 C3, then top up with the new oil I've bought 5w30 A1? It's only so I have an empty container to put the old oil in. Cheers. Yes it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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